British woman found guilty of making up rape claims

This case is awful. I don't believe she willingly had sex with all those men. Where is the video footage that some of the guys filmed? If it was consensual sex then lets prove it, but the onus should be on the men to prove it.
I think when the family appeal the case will have to be re heard.

Terrible. I believe her. How traumatic for her. Raped, not believed and then facing a trial and possibly jail. It’s a disgrace.

Does Cyprus have a hold over the U.K. due to raf/army bases there? Or is it simply a case of the U.K. not getting involved in the judicial system of another country?

Just awful - I believe her

So the answer to BigusBumus's question is that, regardless of who was telling the truth, the woman or the men who had sex with her, it's extremely hard to argue that there has been a fair trial.

The men weren't tried at all and their evidence was never tested.

The woman was tried for lying about "an imaginary offence". The judge refused to admit evidence about whether it was "an imaginary offence".

How is it that the burden of proof is on her to prove she's been raped, in the rape charge, and then again, to prove she's been raped (but without talking about it apparently) in the second trial.

Shouldn't the assumption of the second be that there was a rape, and that she was lying has to be proved? Surely you have to prove the assertion, not defend yourself against the assumption you're guilty?

Horrific. I believe her too.

Why aren’t the foreign office all over this?
That's what I don't understand either. There's lots of outrage across social media. Where the hell is the government on this?

I believe her. It would be good if it provoked a campaign to boycott Cyprus. Although iirc Cyprus rely more on Israeli tourism than UK which probably impacted how they approached this entire case.

Tell you what, put the men through the same treatment - see what they 'confess' to after that kind of 'interview'

And that'll be without having been raped the night before of course, so not even close to the same level of distress for them, because I absolutely believe her.

Briton found guilty over Ayia Napa false rape claim
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/30/briton-found-guilty-over-ayia-napa-false-claim-cyprus

The woman retracted the assertion less than a month after making the claim, in a poorly written confession that her lawyers have since argued she was coerced into signing by Cypriot police. The men were released and have since returned to Israel.

Turning from victim to suspect overnight, the woman was arrested on charges of giving a false statement “over an imaginary offence”.
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Michael Polak, a lawyer from the Justice Abroad group, which is assisting the woman, said: “We are not surprised by the result given the frequent refusal during the trial of the judge to consider evidence which supported the fact that the teenager had been raped.

“Shutting down questioning from our Cypriot advocates and the production of evidence into the trial on a handful of occasions the judge stridently stated ‘this is not a rape case, I will not consider whether she was raped or not’.

“We have found it incredibly difficult to follow this logic given that an essential element of the offence is for there to be a ‘false statement concerning an imaginary offence’ and therefore, clearly if the teenager was raped, she cannot be guilty.

Who the fuck knows Bigus, obviously no one knows for sure except those who were there, but the fact that 3 mens semen was found on her is very telling. Do we really think she willingly slept with 3 of her boyfriends pals? Its possible but v unlikely IMO.

I believe her and have from the start.

They are trying to protect their tourist industry.

But how does any KNOW she was either lying or not lying, unless you were one of the 13 people present?

Its all very well saying I believe her, (and for whats its worth I am very much leaning that way), but what if she IS lying? Its happened before. I just can't be 100% behind someone for the only fact that shes a woman. She is a human being and so are the boys. It could be that she IS lying? Or they are. My default position is always to be on the side of the woman, but there is something about this case that makes me very uneasy.

I was astonished that in Cyprus nothing is recorded in police stations - so the evidence can't be examined at all. Also that none of the "falsely" accused men were called as witnesses and that the judge refused to hear any evidence pertaining to the rape as the whole context of the offence was that there was no rape - hardly unbiased judgement was it?

Agree with pp - how does going home with one man automatically mean agreement to have intercourse with eleven men? What sort of person (man) thinks this is OK?

I am absolutely appalled, the poor young woman and her family.

This 'judge' sounds like a very underqualified magistrate.

It's horrifying. The judge refused to hear evidence that she'd been raped, saying that it wasn't a rape case they were hearing.

Off my holiday list

Well that’s Cyprus my holiday list forever.
Is there a crowd funding page to get her home ? Pay some bills ?

This is just awful. I believe her too.

That poor, poor woman.

I believe her.

Just horrific.

I believe her.

I read earlier in the trial that some text messages from the men's phones had been recovered which implied she'd been telling the truth. Haven't seen them mentioned again. I wonder why.

This poor woman. I hope she can come home now.

The police put pressure on her to retract her statement.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/06/uk-woman-says-cyprus-police-forced-her-retract-rape-claim

My above post should read without a lawyer

The arrogance of the judge ignoring psychological reports from the UK

Bit of a post-colonial chip on the shoulder there, and a conservative Greek Orthodox culture that despises Aya Napa and all its works but takes the cash just the same.

She went to have consensual sex with one. Do we think all the others ensured they individually obtained consent from her ?? Me thinks not...

Apparently not a ‘reliable witness’... same old crap... you’re composed - you’re not reliable. Your distraught - you’re not reliable. You can’t remember every single detail - you’re not reliable. You remember too much - you’re not reliable.

Not reliable when interrogated by the police for ages with a lawyer ...

The men however - always reliable...