Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor

🤯

I have a migraine coming on just from reading the title.

Man and woman have a baby, it doesn’t matter what they look like. Twisted language.

Well there is male pregnancy... but humans aren’t seahorses or pipefish. :)

I reaalllllyy worry about the children, how does it not f**k with their heads

What did I say that warranted deletion? @MNHQ

Reuben adds: “I found it frustrating that people didn’t just ask my gender or not use it. I look like a man, have a beard.

No, you don't. Neither of you do. Not even when all cues are cropped out. You look like what you both are.

Congratulations on your baby. Live your best lives. Live as makes you happy. But do not expect the rest of the world to live their lives according to your choices.

I want to understand Trans people and their views but as I read this entire thing I couldn't help think "what the actual fuck?".

Even when people go through that pregnancy experience with their partner, it’s a joint thing.

No, it isn't. One is pregnant and doing the actual work of creating a whole human from scratch, the other is not.

Er. Mumsnet?
Why has @Aaarrgghhh had their comment deleted?
And can you please explain how it breaks guidelines?

So a female person was impregnated with sperm from a male person, resulting in a baby. So ... just like every other human being that's ever existed then.

This isn't news and I don't give a toss. If the media keep reporting crap like this like it's special, like donating sperm or giving birth are something people haven't been doing for hundreds of years then they just add to these people's feeling that they ARE special and clever instead of just normal people doing the same shit other people do but dressed differently. In the end we ALL know (the media, the public, the medical profession) that a MAN/MALE donated sperm and a WOMAN/FEMALE gave birth same as other men and women do every day of the week. So it's all non news.

The most jarring aspect is that I don't believe for one second that a female suffering dysphoria can be pregnant and give birth - and if they do and can stand it then I suspect they could diminish that same dysphoria through talking therapy and without hormones or surgery so once a trans man goes through this process I lose any sympathy I had and they just irritate me instead. The reason? Well, like many women here I know damn well that being pregnant and giving birth are ALL about your body and its femaleness and I know how intrusive it all is, you cant escape it. If you can get through that I'm pretty certain you can deal with dysphoria in less intrusive ways than a life of medicine and costing the NHS thousands. It just confirms to me that the real motive is being 'special' in a culture which seems to think we all have to be special - which just isn't possible. I now have zero patience for this giving birth pageantry, just give it up already and stop reporting it like it is news.

Reuben adds: “I found it frustrating that people didn’t just ask my gender or not use it. I look like a man, have a beard

It's all about the validation. That poor baby.

Male-gendered biological female gives birth to baby fathered by female-gendered biological male.
Think that sums it up!

@T0tallyFuckedUpFamily I find that quote really quite horrifying. You’re not a man if you’re having a baby! It’s impossible. It’s seriously like 1984.

I was just laughing at this, the world's gone mad 😂😂😂

Without exception, everyone I know translates this type of communication.

Family members often check out meanings e.g 'transman, that's a female, right?'

With this article, people will translate the language and then think 'oh, just usual sexual reproduction' and then shades in between, 'what nonsense' and 'great that they are being inclusive and accommodating people's identity'.

I don't believe a single person thinks that anything different has occurred in the creation of this baby than has happened in the creation of any other baby.

Reuben adds: “I found it frustrating that people didn’t just ask my gender or not use it. I look like a man, have a beard.

Because that’s the most important thing in all this, eh! Not the fact that this female bodied person has a lovely healthy baby. Nice to know where their priorities lie.

I feel so sorry for the baby in this situation. Poor thing is going to be brought up with such a warped sense of "reality" and will no doubt end up with numerous issues of its own as a result

@Aaarrgghh I totally agree. 🙌

I am genuinely sick to the back teeth of all this non binary, gender neutral bollocks.

I do feel a little sad that they classed the baby as a miracle baby. Why?

Probably because it'll be a miracle if it doesn't need a lifetime of therapy...

I wish them all happiness.

Man and woman have a baby. The dawn of a new era.

So let me get this straight

Reuben was born female and has a uterus (but identifies as a man now)
A man donated sperm (there is no such thing as ‘female sperm’ AFAIK

So actually it’s just man plus woman = baby?