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Christmas Carol Criticised for Cratchit's Interracial Marriage

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ArranUpsideDown · 25/12/2019 19:40

BBC's Christmas Carol is criticised for Cratchit's interracial marriage

As Vinette Robinson (Mary Cratchit) says, it's depressingly predictable

twitter.com/_vinette/status/1209496988120690690

But, it's given rise to a fabulous thread about magnificent women and interracial marriages from C18 onwards. I've certainly learned a lot (eg, Dumas, Pushkin, Coleridge-Taylor were all the children of interracial unions) and have a list of fabulous women that I want to learn more about in the near future.

twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1209240686937202695?s=20

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BarbaraStrozzi · 25/12/2019 21:28

Arran another couple of musicians/composers. The Chevalier At George, who as well as being a composer was a brilliant soldier and military strategist, as well as swordsman (taught Dumas senior to fence). And Bridgetower, the violinist for whom Beethoven originally wrote the Kreutzer sonata (they later fell out over a romance, hence the change in dedication).

There was a very sizeable black community in London in the late 18th/early 19th century. (And I seem to remember a programme on radio 4 about the history of the cowboy which pointed out 1 in 4 were black - the wild west wasn't the all-white environment portrayed in cowboy films). Arguably the casting of black actors, far from being historical revisionism, is actually a move towards reflecting the way things actually were.

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ArranUpsideDown · 25/12/2019 20:45

A lot of American couples on that thread.

Somewhere in that thread a Breitbart writer makes the same point and Whores of Yore has a discussion about it with him. (I still have no idea how to see all of the separate discussions in a Twitter thread.)

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justcly · 25/12/2019 20:43

A lot of American couples on that thread. Not the same demographic at all.

Helenluvsrob · 25/12/2019 20:20

Yeh but what about the muppet Xmas carol. He’s a frog , she’s a pig and it still works 😂

iklboodolphrednosedreindeer · 25/12/2019 20:19

Somebody moaned about the 'modern' swearing. Using that, you know, Anglo Saxon word fuck.

AnnaMagnani · 25/12/2019 20:18

MIL has apparently been moaning that they have re-written it to make it more PC with bigger roles for women.

She's visiting tomorrow so I've genned up on the original plot which had a surprising amount of prominent female characters. She doesn't like me already so I've nothing to lose! her internal misogyny runs sadly deep

Milanimilani · 25/12/2019 20:15

children was that necessary? Saying interracial marriages are okay is nothing to do with the debate about the transgender movement cough cough, racist, much?

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ArranUpsideDown · 25/12/2019 20:03

Some twit whined that she was showing only pics of couples from late 19th/early 20th century - she pointed out that photography wasn't available to the masses til later.

Should we grant someone with a camera some temporary access to the MN portal?

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drspouse · 25/12/2019 20:03

It's good, very dark.
I did like Vinette's reply about Miss Piggy too.

64sNewName · 25/12/2019 20:01

Some gorgeous photos on that thread.

Makes me want to get out my family history stuff and bore the legs off everyone in the house

WomanBornNotWorn · 25/12/2019 19:55

Whoresofyore 's research and presentation is fab! Some twit whined that she was showing only pics of couples from late 19th/early 20th century - she pointed out that photography wasn't available to the masses til later.

64sNewName · 25/12/2019 19:50

(Haven’t watched ACC though, so nothing to say about that)

64sNewName · 25/12/2019 19:49

Really interesting. I love hearing about forgotten/unexpected lives from the past.

Childrenofthestones · 25/12/2019 19:46

See how you feel about Ma Cratchet being a Transgender woman next Christmas.