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No Female toilets!

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 25/12/2019 05:12

I was in Kings College in Cambridge earlier and needed the loo. I followed the sign to "toilets" to find two doors, one saying "Males" and the other saying "Cubicles". In the "cubicles" room were 4 cubicles and a sink area. Dh used the Male toilets and said there were 3/4 cubicles and about 6 urinals.

So men can use either set of loos - their own segregated ones or the mixed cubicles. Women have no segregated loos and have to share with men.

I've never come across this IRL. Apart from.the logistical aspect of men having access to 8 cubicles and 6 urinals where women can only access 4 cubicles, there is the marginalisation of women and denying us a space of our own.

I am very taken aback that this has been allowed. I'm alo surprised that students htbe not protested about this as it seems crazy.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 25/12/2019 09:57

My ds is at another Uni and in the public areas .the loos are gender neutral. But they arent in rooms, it's more an area off the main rooms. So you go into cubicles (no urinals) but the handwashing is at sinks which can be seen from everywhere. Difficult to explain but it feels ok. Whereas at Kings it was separate rooms, ie like the vast majority of toilets in non-residenti buildings, but with the segregation of men only.

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OhHolyJesus · 25/12/2019 09:56

If this shit hasn't been sorted out by the time my DS gets to Uni I'm not sure I'll want him to go. It's not just the toilets, it's the indoctrination in all higher education, as we saw with Jonathan Best, the toilets are only a symptom of the underlying ideology.

TBF, my DS is young so we have time but if it hasn't been eradicated it will be worse, far worse, even more like 1984, so we have to challenge it at every turn, every time we see it.

MermaidUnicorn · 25/12/2019 09:47

Tbh I'm hoping that this shit has been sorted by the time my kids get to uni. Otherwise it will be grim for my DD.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 25/12/2019 09:47

I was so taken aback that I didn't click straight away and walked along a bit expecting t find the "Females" toilet before it dawned on me.. .

I was at the Carol service and had queued overnight for tickets so was very sleep deprived and didn't feel.like raising it the time. Especially as the only staff near the loos were stewards trying to herd 1200 people into the Chapel.

I will write to the Master of Kings to raise the issue. But I feel like this is some sort of parallel universe and I don't like it.

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LizzieSiddal · 25/12/2019 08:36

I would have asked where the female toilets are, and if told there aren’t any I would have said that’s sex discrimination. Clear as a bell- males get dedicated toilets but females don’t?!

This- it is discriminatory and should be challenged.

My 26 year old dd and her friend were out last week in a bar in London and they had the same set up. They were too scared to go to the loo on their own so had to go together. They were so angry that they’re put in this position. I’ve told her to send an email to management but they should bloody well have too!

I think we need a legal test case to sort this out once and for all.

Dolorabelle · 25/12/2019 08:20

yYANBU.

THis is the current woke madness. And academics who question it are in danger of disciplinary action via complaints aimed at getting them sacked (well, that was my experience anyway).

Mintjulia · 25/12/2019 07:44

same at Oxford. Male loos and gender neutral loos.
I work there occasionally and have to walk up the road to John Lewis to find a ladies loo.
I’ll not be renewing our contract if I can avoid it. Just gross.

flowery · 25/12/2019 07:39

I would have asked where the female toilets are, and if told there aren’t any I would have said that’s sex discrimination. Clear as a bell- males get dedicated toilets but females don’t?!

Milanimilani · 25/12/2019 07:01

Ooh. I have a sneaky urge to wander around with “female” door stickers now.

YouJustDoYou · 25/12/2019 05:49

It's been allowed because transwomen have demanded access and got it because if people don't give them.the spaces they demand, they get sued for discrimination, transphobia etc. Womenare not permiitted to want their own privacy - thats transphobic. There were probably a few students who demanded this and of course no one is allowed to request for male.bodied people not to be allowed access (because they're labelled transphobic ter fs).

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