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Jolyon Maugham lets slip

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EwwSprouts · 22/12/2019 16:53

In an attempt to show both sides of the GC / self-ID can be vile he takes offence at "Why is it so important to you that men are able to access our facilities? Is it personal?". Why? Because he says such a suggestion is equivalent to calling him a "pervert". So there you have it, agreement that men who want to be in female toilets tend to have a dubious sexual motivation.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1208394313006223360

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koshkat · 27/12/2019 14:10

I cannot help but think that he WANTED this attention for some reason.

Uncompromisingwoman · 27/12/2019 13:48

See he's hit the BBC main news. Couldn't happen to a more deserving specimen.

SirVixofVixHall · 27/12/2019 11:01

The fox probably got caught trying to get away from him.
He should have decent quality, rigid weld mesh for his run, as plastic/nylon netting is a tangle hazard to all wildlife, (hedgehogs in particular). If he has wire netting, then a scrabbling fox might catch a paw, he could have snipped the wire and released the animal, or gone to get help. He had a baseball bat with him, not for the first time. He had a baseball bat because he wanted to batter the fox.

I have chickens, I also have foxes who come into my garden. I have a very strong weld mesh run. I have had hens taken when free ranging in the garden, I consider that to be my fault entirely. It has never occurred to me to charge after the fox with a baseball bat, probably because I am not a heartless , bloodthirsty maniac.

YellaHumberElla · 27/12/2019 10:56

There once was a lawyer of tax
Whose judgement of gender was lax
He dispatched with a bat
A poor fox, what a prat
But said Joly, in a Kimono, it’s Pro Bono

Beamur · 27/12/2019 10:55

This is just weird, creepy and inappropriate on many levels. Serious lack of judgement.

Justhadathought · 27/12/2019 10:48

probably wild with terror, possibly injured and be despatched it. I don’t think he was intending to boast - I think he was saying ‘ugh - what a weird start to the day

"Dispatching" implies a clinical act. Beating an animal to death with a baseball bat is not a very clinical act. It would certainly have taken many blows.......

Justhadathought · 27/12/2019 10:44

Couldn't he have shooed it away like everyone else does? Seems overly dramatic. What's his record on fox hunting? I'm expecting something wildly hypocritical

He said he 'dispatched' the creature...that's the sort of language which is employed to distance oneself from the brutal reality of one's actions.

Justhadathought · 27/12/2019 10:31

What's more, he didn't realise that this would be considered disturbing behaviour by other people, hence putting it on Twitter

Yes, I've been considering this too....... and came to the conclusion that he has never really questioned mainstream narrative at all....
That he is now doubling down on defending his horrendous actions, rather than the shock of what he did necessitating a pause for reflection.

The fox was doing what came naturally to it. In spite of heroic masculine ideas about clubbing animals to death....human beings around the world are mainly vegetarian - surviving on a diet of fruit, grains , nuts and seeds........clubbing animals to death is not an instinctive programme.

RuffleCrow · 27/12/2019 10:25

Well, if the cap fits...

DanaPhoenix · 27/12/2019 10:23

What a shitty thing to do. I'm in Sydney (albeit close to bushland) on morning on our top deck I swear I saw a fox stalking around only to run to what could best be described as perhaps a rocky den. I've plenty of baseball bats on hand as DS2 plays but for some strange reason I managed to resist the urge to rush out and beat it to death.

Although later in the morning I did knock on my neighbours door to give them a heads up as their kitty is prone to roam. I never did see it again, if I had I would have contacted animal control as they are a pest here and a threat to both domestic pets and native animals.

As an aside netting as a protection isn't ideal as a different neighbour was protecting their passion fruit vine with it and a flying fox got trapped. We did our best to free it once we noticed but unfortunately we're too late. Very distressing particularly for my boys.

AutumnRose1 · 27/12/2019 10:20

RoyalCorgi But the arguments have "won" against Maya.

RoyalCorgi · 27/12/2019 10:17

I was thinking a lot about this last night when I was trying to go to sleep. And the more I thought about it, the more unhinged it seemed. It's not normal, is it? If I came across a fox caught in netting, I would want to free it. So would my other half. So would most normal people.

But Maugham had a baseball bat at the ready and seemed to relish the opportunity to use it. I think very few of us would have the stomach to kill an animal at close quarters like that. What's more, he didn't realise that this would be considered disturbing behaviour by other people, hence putting it on Twitter.

So there's something not quite right there.

As for his supposed high intelligence, I dare say he's a very capable tax lawyer, but the arguments he deploys in the gender debate are infantile. Put him up against Jane Clare Jones, Kathleen Stock or Julie Bindel and they would wipe the floor with him.

AutumnRose1 · 27/12/2019 10:01

Poor Rev Coles seems to be genuinely looking for a way to defend him

I too still wonder if it’s made up, mostly because as social media stories go, it’s just too perfect.

Tocopherol · 27/12/2019 10:00

His new thing is to campaign against the evils of factory farming. Factory farming is very cruel and environmentally damaging.
A worthy cause indeed.

Perhaps best not fronted by a person who cannot look after a few pet hens without needing to commit wildlife crime and joke about it after.

koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:56

could

koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:56

'Claire's kimono'...should have its own twitter account. The stories it coule tell.

C8H10N4O2 · 27/12/2019 09:52

twitter.com/265kay/status/1210300804218970125/photo/1

He likes wearing that kimono doesn't he? Grin

koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:51

What is it about TRAs and baseball bats?

You know I had not even made this link. This is such a very weird story.

Itsallgonetoofar · 27/12/2019 09:49

The difference between him defending himself on this and doubling down on his women hating tweets is men disapproved of him dispatching the fox

terfsandwich · 27/12/2019 09:49

What is it about TRAs and baseball bats?
I wonder if it said "Die TERF scum" on it?

koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:47

RoyalCorgi I do think that this seems to be psycopathic behaviour. He has commited a horrible act (possibly - the women's kimono aspect makes me dubious now) and shows precisely no empathy at all and is so full of the joy of his exploits that he posts it online and expects people to see it his way.

FlyingOink · 27/12/2019 09:46

This old meme fits well with this.

Jolyon Maugham lets slip
koshkat · 27/12/2019 09:42

I do wonder whether it's a lie, but he can't admit it because then people will (rightly) question his veracity on everything else. Also, lying about it is arguably even weirder than doing it.

This. And whilst dressed in a women's 'too small' kimono. He has tweeted about doing this act dressed this way before so this could be something VERY different, no?

I hope that the fox story is nonsense but where that leaves him I really don't know.