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JK Rowling - Thread 2

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MoleSmokes · 21/12/2019 02:03

Thread 1 started by @MsMcWibble here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3772685-JK-Rowling
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twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
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To start off thread 2 - everyone saying the time was right for this to hit the news stands right after the Election was right!

Maya Forstater's Employment Tribunal case is, by virtue of JK Rowling's support, more popular in The Spectator than Boris Johnson by Boris Johnson, The Tories and The Labour Party!

MOST POPULAR in The Spectator

1. In just a few words, JK Rowling has changed the transgender debate (James Kirkup)

  1. Boris Johnson: Perhaps my campaign was ‘clunking’. But sometimes, clunking is what you need (Boris Johnson)
  2. We’ve just had the best decade in human history. Seriously (Matt Ridley)
  3. Keir Starmer looks and sounds middle class precisely because he’s working class (Isabel Hardman)
  4. Let’s make David Lammy Labour’s next leader (Rod Liddle)
  5. A new leader won’t stop the far left’s domination of Labour (Nick Cohen)

www.spectator.co.uk/

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Tootsweets23 · 21/12/2019 11:58

Re the discussion on the first thread about how academia has been taken over by nonsense... was this thread covered?

mobile.twitter.com/claudistics/status/1207794227637374976

It is a doozy of the "I'm an expert scientist let's talk about all these other species and hope you don't notice I'm not talking about humans much".

Thanks to the JK tweet I now know how many of my intelligent pro rational, pro science non-scientist mates who 100% think sex is on a spectrum.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 11:57

My favorite is when they insist that hypospadias means sex don't real.

BinkySodPlop · 21/12/2019 11:57

Not sure if it's allowed to reference a previous thread (and don't know how to link the particular comment!), but I just wanted to say a big "thank you" to the 11 women who keep this board going (ably supported by the Russian bots). You are an informative and witty bunch and even find time to keep the street violence wing going......

AlunWynsKnee · 21/12/2019 11:44

Very happy that ds is getting a set of HP books for Christmas Xmas Smile

Haworthia · 21/12/2019 11:42

So many “biologists” crashing onto Twitter to say “Lo! Allow me to explain something about biological sex! It isn’t binary ACTUALLY, it’s VERY complicated...”

And then they wang on at length about disorders of sexual development. I’m tempted to have a shot every time I see one of these threads, but it’s early and I have stuff to do, so... Gin

Here’s one: twitter.com/claudistics/status/1207794227637374976?s=21

JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 11:34

Cordelia Fine has this on her page:

I also agree that "people should be legally permitted to believe that biological sex is immutable and cannot be changed, without fear of losing their jobs." (Kathleen Stock)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 11:30

(Spoiler - in Rowling's case the pit is lined with 100 pound bills and adoring fan letters. And ringed with the bottles of gin many of us are going to send her if a suitable shipping address is provided.)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 11:29

So, yeah, as we can see, cancelling someone on Twitter means nobody will ever like them again and they will be cast into the pit of like free despair.

breakfastpizza · 21/12/2019 11:25

I was at Gatwick yesterday and the Harry Potter store was HEAVING. I was going to buy something in support but it was too jammed!

NeurotrashWarrior · 21/12/2019 11:24

I think it's a piss take

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 11:20

Yes, media companies, remove all Harry Potter content from your networks right before Christmas, because if there's anything large media companies love it's losing money!

bellinisurge · 21/12/2019 11:17

I saw someone likening transwomen to adoptive parents. You would never saw that a parent with an adopted child wasn't their parent. BUT correct me if I am wrong, but isn't adoption a difficult and testing process where there has to be some legal confirmation first after considerable assessment of a person's suitability before they are allowed to be an adopted parent. Which is regularly checked and supervised.
The analogy doesn't work.

breakfastpizza · 21/12/2019 11:16

A bit behind, but I can't believe NBC News gave space to someone (Rachel McKinnon/Veronica Ivy) who has made public death threats to women. And there isn't even a mention of it, or of their multiple name changes to hide their past. It's like Jarvis being quoted in the Advocate - you don't need any credentials or credibility whatsoever, other than saying "I'm trans".

Jameela? What an absolute embarrassment. She's complained extensively about cancel culture... then cancels Rowling in the most attention-seeking way possible.

Challenge to Jameela - spend some time on the frontline of services for vulnerable women. Find out WHY the people running them are concerned. Extend them the basic human dignity you seem to so keen to bestow on anti-women campaigners.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/12/2019 11:12

my Hadgrid waifu pillow

I'm growing rather fond of Jarvis!

JanesKettle · 21/12/2019 11:09

Gonna buy some HP books tomorrow for my nieces.

Will be interesting to see what this does to her sales - I think it could end up rejuvenating them, actually (not that they probably need much rejuvenation).

TiredofthisBS · 21/12/2019 11:06

I liked this one a lot.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/12/2019 10:59

I don't even know if those tweets are serious.

TiredofthisBS · 21/12/2019 10:57

It was the reply of WHOOSH to that prize plum that had me sobbing with laughter @BarbaraStrozzi

NeurotrashWarrior · 21/12/2019 10:55

Omg this is hilarious!

twitter.com/journalistew/status/1207753270254604289?s=21

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NeurotrashWarrior · 21/12/2019 10:51

Jameela is really annoying me. She doesn't get that it's all body negative. All of it. And misogynistic.

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/12/2019 10:41

Thank you Tired for that Titania thread - golden!

I love the clip of Father Ted and that sort of language. And of course, it has one poster who hasn't realised it's a parody saying "remember to buy them at a thrift shop so she doesn't get any of your money" - I love it when people are that dim! Grin

DryHeave · 21/12/2019 10:38

I’m going to buy all the films now.

TiredofthisBS · 21/12/2019 10:36

I saw a very funny parody of an interview with Jamila over on Spinster.

Clymene · 21/12/2019 10:31

Jameela Jamil is an idiot

Dangerfloof · 21/12/2019 10:29

I just came on to say #owenjonesisawankerday is trending. Well in the top 5. So many people having fun with it too.

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