JK Rowling - Thread 2

I think this was mentioned on the first page, but regarding celebrities and public figures who have stayed silent so far, like Charlie Brooker, I feel like the time for them to say something is kind of overdue... I can see why they aren't and feel their silence on it speaks in its own way..but come on, now's the time surely.

Sorry the above is for
@Tocopherol
So not really stay married whatever it was hyperbole from me

How many fingers am I holding up?

The new law allows for trans people who are already married to gain gender recognition without having to get divorced, which is extremely welcome and long overdue. However, because there remains a distinction between “same-sex” and “opposite-sex” marriages, the spouse also must consent. The trans person cannot gain gender recognition until either the spouse consents – or they get divorced. That's what campaigners call the "spousal veto"

Just popping on to say I joined twitter yesterday to like JK's tweet and follow a whole bunch of people like her and Ricky.

It's almost as if I can read your mind, even.

I am now identifying as psychic.

And do people online spend a lot of time telling adoptive parents 'you're not their real mum/dad'? Yup.

And have I ever had South Yorkshire police investigate that as a hate crime or told anyone to DIAF or threatened to 'kerb stomp' anyone? Well I think you can see how this rhetorical line of questioning is going

Rules about to change? How would that mean he has to stay married to you? Last time I got into a, ahem, discussion over this the other person was furious that a spouse can 'stop' a transition and use it as a reason to divorce. Or similar.

Sorry, I'm somewhat behind on this. I was pretty on board with the transgender stuff until I saw that clownfish nonsense doing the rounds and started seeing this crap about always centering transwomen in feminism

Great post, @even.

I saw someone likening transwomen to adoptive parents. You would never saw that a parent with an adopted child wasn't their parent. BUT correct me if I am wrong, but isn't adoption a difficult and testing process where there has to be some legal confirmation first after considerable assessment of a person's suitability before they are allowed to be an adopted parent. Which is regularly checked and supervised.
The analogy doesn't work.

Actually it's a brilliant analogy. I am my dd's mum. She knows that. But when I take her to the doctor and the doctor says 'any history of X in the family?' I don't say 'no doctor'. I say, 'actually she is adopted and we are not biologically related so I don't know'.

Is that bloody painful? Being reminded that i am not her birth mother? Yes it is.

Do I shout at the doctor for triggering me? No I don't.

I would give anything to be her birth mother but I am not and can't ever be. I can't change reality because reality upsets me.

It's a great analogy. It just proves the opposite of what they want it to.

Oh I agree - you can tell a lot about a person from their treatment of animals.

And children.

Let's take a moment to think about how the trans movement treats children.

Hah! Her response was very telling.

Ricky Gervais....the gift that keeps on giving. I already think he is great due to being an animal lover.

I really love Ricky Gervais too - I mean, he just dgaf. No joke is off-limits to him, and so of course he was going to joke about Jenner, Yaniv etc.

But, he then comes out with a serious statement on twitter about how this is affecting women - and I am so pleased to see he really gets it. Not just some crap about "we eed a serious conversation" or "nastiness on both sides" - he totally sees what is being done to women.

Just bought one of the Rowling/Galbraith books for a friend's Christmas. Small gesture, but worth it I feel.

I don't think I've seen a more accurate (and less funny) meme as the woman gagged by a trans flag. It's totally how this feels.

Biologists who assert sex is on a spectrum need to ask physicists the meaning of the word “spectrum.”

Should we all write to JKR’s agent to show support? I’m so pleased she isn’t backing down. That Titania thread is funny!

Apologies if this has already been shared but this was on BBCScot9 last night: twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1208315003432054785?s=21

@FlamingoAndJohnmaybe wait till you are having sex and announce half way through you now identify as a man? (Or any of 72+ genders you choose). See if he's as keen then
Also remind him that now you are a man, he is now gay. And as you (I assume) are married and the rules are probably about to change, he has to stay married to you.

Ah, found thread 2! (Been busying myself with Christmassy stuff this morning.)

So glad JK is standing firm.

What did Ricky Gervais tweet? I can't access the archived link near the start of the thread due to settings on my phone.

I'm feeling quite sad and very anxious today. Stuck my head above the parapet on FB yesterday and one of my close friends has today liked a TWAW post. I'm worried I will lose a valued friendship over this. The maddest thing is she's bisexual, you'd think she'd know the difference between male and female bodies pretty well. Also her wife and her had IVF to have their son - now why would they have had need donor sperm, surely one could just have identified as a man?

This shit is so depressing.

The witch-hunting of JK Rowling is a disgrace. All she did was defend a woman’s right to express an opinion on transgenderism. It’s so clear now: the trans movement is a menace to reason, liberty and women’s rights. We must oppose it, says Brendan O’Neill

twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1208341395360096256?s=20

Apologies if this has already been posted

Just popping in to say that I 'liked' JK's tweet too and am horrified by the abuse that is being directed at her!

So much for all the talk of 'shy, delicate, sensitive' female penises blah blah when so many on Twitter have been telling her to suck/choke on their female penis. Such aggression rather proves why they should not be allowed into female only spaces tbh.

Sane transwomen who just want to quietly live and let live must be despairing at how the aggressive, loud minority are behaving just now.

It's exactly the Spanish Inquisition. Different time but same mindset. These types have always been around.

Marking my place here. Twitter is a very dark place and the abuse is staggering. Please keep sharing the good, supportive, funny stuff.