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What if it's your JOB to recognise sex exists?

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WomanBornNotWorn · 20/12/2019 10:51

I wonder how people whose jobs, careers and professions are all entirely based around sex specifics will deal with this?

Then I started listing them ...

obstetricians
gynaecologists
endometriosis specialists
foetal ultrasound techs
mammographers
IUD specialists
midwives
prostate, testicular, penile, breast, cervical, uterine and vulval cancer specialists
IVF specialists
blood, urine and semen sample testers
sperm bank staff
surrogacy specislists
designers and manufacturers of contraceptives, sanpro, incontinence care products
designers and manufacturers of sex aids
sex ed teachers
geneticists
menopause consultants
HRT makers
designers and manufacturers of mastectomy care products
forensic examiners who need to be able to sex human remains
surgeons who do genital surgery for any reason
and chicken sexers (yes, it's a thing)

What if anything they are all being told about policing themselves?

Or out in the real world, is there a collective 'FFS ….' and eyerolling - but getting on with business as usual?

Please feel free to add everything I've forgotten - could be useful to have a list all in one place.

Anyone working in those or similar fields like to comment?

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endofthelinefinally · 20/12/2019 11:19

But if you can be sacked for believing in biological sex, presumably all those people are on shaky ground?

Barracker · 20/12/2019 11:16

Sex exists. So does gender

Not on an NHS medical record.
Only 'gender' exists

So when an analyst is looking at the data of millions of, say heart attacks and comparing reported symptoms in males vs females, the data they are analysing is not about sexed bodies. It's about that old chestnut, 'how you see yourself'.

The sex field on our medical records held in the national 'spine' which holds our data - is blank. We all have a gender which is easily changeable to ensure both sexes are irrevocably indistinguishable in the data.

jakeyboy1 · 20/12/2019 11:07

Another one is the influx of women's health specialists that have popped up recently. Generally physios but sometimes PT's like Jenny Burrell and The Holistic Core Restore programme. These people are doing great work for women and highlighting some important issues post natally and menopause etc but I am yet to see any comment on these issues. If a man presents to them for treatment on his "female" body I wonder how that will go down?

Also these people are aggressively marketing at females so I wonder when someone will challenge that? I mean I hope they don't but it seems likely.

TheABC · 20/12/2019 11:04

I have occasionally wondered how transwomen like Yaniv expect their gynecologists to actually treat them? If you don't physically have the genitals to check, what do you expect them to do?

LadyCordeliaVorkosigan · 20/12/2019 11:02

Sex exists. So does gender. So all those medical specialists are aware a few of their patients may have different honorifics to most (say some Mr and Mx in gynaecology) and get on with treating them politely and professionally.

Fallingirl · 20/12/2019 11:01

Biology teachers. Is it even allowed to teach human biology any more?

BolloxtoGender · 20/12/2019 10:57

And even for the wokian HR department, how will they recognise sex discrimination?