LBC this morning

Altogether, there are around 430,000 homicides worldwide each year. And yet millions of trans people are being murdered each year

To be fair, Carrie Lyell didn't claim that.

We need to tread very cautiously indeed before getting on any Ferrari bandwagon. The man's a bigot and has zero interest in or support for feminism.

So what feminist beliefs do you hold, Strongmummy, and what feminist causes do you support, that you would like to see here? In which case start a thread about them.

Oh I’m feminist, I just don’t agree with you lot and find this section ridiculous as a result

I find it ridiculous that an existential threat to freedom of speech has been allowed to fester and a woman is sacked for asserting a belief in biological sex. An empirical belief shared by the majority of humans on the planet. I find it regressive and ridiculous that primary school children are being taught girls like certain books and other gender conformist nonsense. I find it ridiculous that a guy gets visited by the cops for a limerick but burglaries are not investigated. I find it unacceptable that a lobby whose tactics involve avoiding public debate and media scrutiny have been able to swerve both for so long. For those of us concerned about freedom and democracy? Great to see that’s over.

You can always tell when the TRAs are getting rattled by the number of them that turn up here to dazzle us to their excellent arguments.

* I* bid you good day..

Not staying to flesh out the main planks of your argument?

What a shame.

And you leave us with a slur, how unexpected.

Altogether, there are around 430,000 homicides worldwide each year. And yet millions of trans people are being murdered each year. TRA logic for you . . .

"a sex positive" - says everything

Oh I’m feminist, I just don’t agree with you lot..

And we don't agree with you.

There. What a super debate; you really made me and think about this subject with your insightful points. Not just me either, but I'm sure you've given all of the feminists here food for thought. Do you know Bespin?

Massive sarcasm smiley.

koshkat No worries, I think I posted my comment before seeing your updated one.

Ahh seen it’s millions a year but I think my point still stands, a lot more people would need to be trans and even still looking up the facts shows that there hasn’t been that many. Why do people believe it?

She claimed that millions of transpeople are being murdered every day

See this kind of bullshit annoys me. It’s a blatant lie, so why do people lap it up? If millions of people who are trans are being killed every day a lot more people would need to be trans and frankly as a result population would be down and nothing like that has happened. It’s ridiculous.

A woman lost her job for stating a biological fact. If that’s not a feminist issue, what is? If a woman lost her job for stating the Earth is not flat, everyone would think it was utterly bonkers. The only relevance to trans is that the bonkers people have captured institutions, and results like this happen.

The feminist section is about centering women and defending our few and hard-won rights. Hope that helps.

She claimed that millions of transpeople are being murdered every day

She needs to have a word with TRAs who state that 311 trans people were murdered (worldwide) last year and let them know that they are out by a billion or so.

Strongmummy Are you not able to create posts in the feminism section? Why are you relying on others providing the conversation that you want?

People clearly want to talk about this stuff and that’s evidenced by the amount of threads. If you want to discuss different things that’s okay, post about it and I’m sure people will discuss it there.

This thread however, does involve talk around people who are trans, if that doesn’t interest you, you aren’t required to read or engage.

Are you the same Strongmummy who was here the other day posting she never came to women's rights because we're all so horrid?

Several threads unrelated to trans rights on the front page but the Maya Forstater case threatens a massive legal precedent and so yes, at the moment most threads are related to trans and women's right to believe in biology and use the word woman to mean woman etc. Assume that as a mummy you know a bit about biology, but perhaps you're more the Egyptian type.