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Laurence Fox (actor) Stands With Maya

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CumannNamBan · 19/12/2019 23:35

Actor, who played Hathaway, from the TV drama Lewis

Laurence Fox (actor) Stands With Maya
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UpfieldHatesWomen · 20/12/2019 11:00

DuMondeB
It's striking that men such as Fox and Douglas Murray are so intellectually lazy when it comes to women's issues, when they are so rigorous on everything else, Murray in particular. It comes down to a lack of empathy for women and reveals an emotional reflex against criticism of men as a sex class that they can't get over. That said, I agree with them on the majority of their opinions and it's important to come together on those issues. I don't think their motives are entirely to be trusted, however. I imagine Fox longs to return to a Lads Mag 90's era where discourse was a lot more frank, blokes were allowed to be blokey and boozy and be up for banter etc. In some ways that would be preferable to the wolves in sheep's clothing wokebros we get now, you know where you stand with blokes like that, but not great for women if it means regression in terms of women not being allowed to object to sexist behaviour.

GCAcademic · 20/12/2019 10:08

Brian Cox doesn't want to have to give up the telly gigs or to find himself subject to the kind of bullying and harassment in his workplace from the student and wokeademic mob that Kathleen Stock and Rosa Freedman have to put up with. Of course, he wouldn't get it as bad, as he's a man, but even so . . .

definitelygc · 20/12/2019 09:50

I don't know if this has come up before on here but why is Brian Cox so silent? His wife has been vocally GC on Twitter for ages now. Cox speaking out would be a huge win, try telling him he's "anti-science"!

IsabelleSE19 · 20/12/2019 09:50

Sorry for derail but posh boys died in droves in WWI as they were usually officers and identifiable by their uniform/equipment so targeted by enemy snipers. Sorry again - as you were.

Aaarrgghhh · 20/12/2019 09:45

Oh, is Fry on the view that trans woman are women? That’s disappointing.

DuMondeB · 20/12/2019 09:33

I quite enjoyed his interview on Triggernometry up to the part he got all MRA and was going on about men have it as bad as women because they had to fight in WW2.

I didn’t mind that too much (although I think he was wide of the mark) because I see conscription as a class oppression more than a sex oppression thing (posh boys like old Harrovian Laurence Fox didn’t die in trenches, that was for the likes of my great grandad). The bit that made me Hmm was the stuff about family courts favouring women, right at the end. The courts favour women because in most cases, women are the primary caregivers!
Of course, if you and your ex missus are well off enough to hire a nanny apiece, 50/50 custody is easier to achieve.

Other than that I thought he was interesting and appreciated the give no fucks attitude. Again though, it’s easier to give no fucks when you have a massive financial cushion.

He’s playing some small music venues nationally in the new year (300 ish capacity at my nearest). Might go seem him, he can buy me a drink Xmas Wink

Dozer · 20/12/2019 09:33

Stephen Fry - urgh

EvenSupposing · 20/12/2019 09:17

Stephen Fry is full on 'why can't you be KIND?'

Probably because he has loads of guilt about coming out late and did all that filming in Uganda (?) and thinks we are literally killing people because that is what he has seen there. And all the women he knows are rich and well-educated and won't ever need to share a council swimming pool changing room /refuge/prison with an AGP.

But I suppose he might come around now the tide is firmly on the turn.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 20/12/2019 09:15

Freddie Fox is 30ish and imho much more talented than Emilia and Laurence, no offence to them.

LangCleg · 20/12/2019 09:08

He's part of - descended from - the Fox acting dynasty - he'll be fine.

He is and he will. Certainly doesn't need anyone's money.

Also: Laurence Fox is a professional contrarian. He'll be absolutely loving a negative pile-on from genderists.

Dozer · 20/12/2019 09:04

He’s made some odd comments, on unrelated issues, in interviews.

Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 09:02

Meant to quote this post:

He's part of - descended from - the Fox acting dynasty - he'll be fine.

Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 09:00

Why do I have the feeling many of the people commenting are 14 or younger?

Does that count for much these days? Laurence and Emilia are the only two of the ‘younger’ generation I can think of and they’re both over 40.

LF has been on my twat-dar for some time, although I can’t exactly remember why. Am prepared to be wrong about him.

TinselAngel · 20/12/2019 08:19

He's been in loads of things, was famously married to Billie Piper and has been in Celebrity Gogglebox recently. He's pretty well known.

TheChampagneGalop · 20/12/2019 07:43

Cool, he posted a lot about it too. It's heartening to see more famous people speaking up.

Laurence Fox (actor) Stands With Maya
SisyphusRocks · 20/12/2019 07:31

Also where is Stephen Fry in all this? Doesn't he live on twitter?

Previous comments would suggest he's another TWAW luvvie

fuckitywhy · 20/12/2019 06:29

Well there's a show to look up, thanks.

terfsandwich · 20/12/2019 03:49

I wonder if Robert Webb's fingers are itching.
Also where is Stephen Fry in all this? Doesn't he live on twitter?

HandsOffMyRights · 20/12/2019 02:03

Yes, the Fox family are acting royalty.

Expect he's getting piled on right now, as Robert Webb did before retracting a tweet after one of the many Mermaids scandals hit the news.

#IStandWithMaya

theflushedzebra · 20/12/2019 00:58

He can kiss his little slot on ITV goodbye, and sadly I doubt he’s anywhere as near as wealthy as JKR.

He's part of - descended from - the Fox acting dynasty - he'll be fine.

UpfieldHatesWomen · 20/12/2019 00:58

I quite enjoyed his interview on Triggernometry up to the part he got all MRA and was going on about men have it as bad as women because they had to fight in WW2. Erm, yeah, 80 years ago, in a war ordered by men, fighting other men, women weren't exactly the oppressors in that situation. That's the trouble with a lot of men on the GC side. Rather than being concerned about the impact on women's rights, they want a push back against criticism of male behaviour. I mean I get it, with the Lib Fem thought policing stasi always on the case, but they fail to distinguish between the the different kinds of feminism or get to grips with the issues on any significant level, and don't wish to examine their own sex class, it's just about sticking two fingers up.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 20/12/2019 00:31

He’s probably not that well known tbh. I don’t imagine many of the woke watched Lewis.

LeftHandDown · 20/12/2019 00:26

He's said and retweeted a few things recently about 'woke' culture, though not quite as strongly worded, but oddly enough rarely gets any blowback!

stumbledin · 20/12/2019 00:11

I wonder how genuine he is. In a couple of recent interviews he seems to be having some sort of crisis, and gave loads of examples of how he has gone out of his way to upset his luvvie colleagues. eg wearing baseball caps supporting Trump just to be antogonistic.

time will tell i suppose

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ChiefClerkDrumknott · 20/12/2019 00:01

Good for him. I do admire a gives no fucks attitude