Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?

More from Dawn, courtesy of @elleandback . Dawn doesn't like being harassed by creepy men...

Also her bullshit tweet about the NSPCC toilet wanker. She seems to like spectacularly missing the point on purpose

Exasperating that she can't see her own inconsistency (if I'm being kind) or hypocrisy (if I'm not).

Maybe she's just stupid? It's got to be a possibility.

Dawn can tell men from women sometimes though. When it directly affects her:

"Males being male doesn’t change anything unless they’re being paid more than me, dismissing my specifically female experience with doctors or being nominated for awards instead of me t.co/j2fxu5L630 "

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Much of the time "transphobia" means nothing more than a stick to beat an enemy with. It doesn't need to be substantiated because it is so incredibly serious that even to question such an accusation compounds the original offence

Isn’t part of the problem the subjective nature of hate speech? I know that trans isn’t a category covered by the law, and that’s why PC Gull recorded a ‘hate incident?’ Isn’t this the core of the Harry Miller case? Maybe that ruling will help clarify what constitutes or doesn’t constitute transphobia.

Much of the time "transphobia" means nothing more than a stick to beat an enemy with. It doesn't need to be substantiated because it is so incredibly serious that even to question such an accusation compounds the original offence.

At some point someone using that stick is going to be sued for defamation. They're going to have a problem when they're asked in court "what was the "transphobia"?".

It's quite hard to have a rational debate with someone who characterises politely-worded disagreement as "absolutely vicious transphobia". You have to wonder how people like her and the other comrades would cope if they really were on the receiving end of people being "absolutely vicious".

Dawn being emblematic of why Labour lost the election, I see! The quicker the Grauniad trust fund runs out of cash, the better. We might get some soi disant left wing journalism that helps an election win then!

I hadn't previously been aware of the insult towards the gay MP and subsequent refusal to apologise, but it seems to be of a piece with her behaviour. A few weeks ago the Sun picture desk asked her if they could use one of her pictures, and her response was "Absolutely not. Get fucked".

I'm not a fan of the Sun, but that kind of aggression towards a fellow journalist is uncalled-for.

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People pointing out Dawn has a bit if an issue with the truth:

Any apology from you Dawn for accusing people concerned about a man filming himself having a wank in his work at the NSPCC of homophobia? Esp now that the NSPCC has sacked him? Or is it still your view that having a wank at work and uploading footage of it to the internet is OK?

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Remember this as well? She seems to have a problem with blowing things out of proportion. t.co/FMxO9GlwxG

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Dawn Foster has chimed in now. Just waiting for Laurie "I'm so special" Penny and Owen "Mantrum" Jones to join in.

Seriously hope Helen takes legal action against some of these wankers.

"Completely spot on, the vitriol aimed at anyone rightly pointing out transphpbia is horrific, and me and pthers won’t back down over our views. Equality is important, hate is destructive."

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"i think those later tweets were ill-advised, sure, but given the absolutely vicious transphobia evident in the response to both louis, myself and others, i can't help but feel that attacking him on those grounds might be a bit of a pretext? idk! broadly, he was in the right"

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"Completely agree. Claiming the election was lost because the manifesto wasn’t transphobia is ludicrous. And I have no idea why so many people seem completely obsessed with toilets. We go in cubicles so I just do not understand why transphobes are so obsessive about loos."

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"a horrible state of affairs! it needs to be made absolutely taboo -- if you want to be in an obsessive hate cult, there should be some consequences for that"

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Another pre-order for Helen's book here.

You're such a boomer Presea

Has anyone got a link to the apology? I'm late to the party.

Thanks.

I also pre-ordered Helen's book after seeing that obvious dose of misogynistic bullshit. Sounds like it was good for sales at least.

You're such a boomer Presea

Jog on, James. You're a mere roadie in comparison to Eve and the Monitors, if your mum has to find your mentions for you.

They’re slagging off my screenshots 😂

Please do join Mumsnet, James. We'd love to hear how you think you and the rest of the men attacking Helen were in the right. We're all ears, bro.

Wings got suspended for calling someone a cunt but this person (apparently a writer I've personally never heard of him) told Graham Linehan to "shut up cunt" and his account is still up.

Also: laughing at those tossers above getting salty about Mumsnet when they have behaved far worse.

GC account WingsOverScotland came to her defence and has been suspended from Twitter.

Wings has been stoutly GC for ages. He's now permanently banned from twitter as of last night. I'm surprised his twitter account lasted as long as it did.

He's not everyone's cup of tea - Lass ( oh I do miss Lass)detested him, but he's done a fabulous job of raising GC awareness to a group (mostly male, but not all) who otherwise would have sailed on by unaware.

He dropped in here before, about a year or so ago?

WIngs, if you're reading, hope you get reinstated.

And Helen

Note to James Greig - no one is 'slagging you' . They quoted you for being part of a bullying campaign. Get a grip.

Benjamin Cohen's husband Dr Anthony James is or was a trustee of Mermaids, I believe.

What a surprise.

GC account WingsOverScotland came to her defence and has been suspended from Twitter.

Many of the stupid laws that went through in the Blair era were cheered through by youngish inexperienced MPs who would go along with anything so long as they were feeling comfortable enough in their crowd.

We're going to see similar but on steroids with the current set of Tory MPs. We might be lucky over potential GRA amendments and other mad stuff but we'll be shocked at the Trumpian changes that end up being made.

I was gutted by the election result but have bounced back a lot quicker than I expected to, and one of the reasons is that I can't see a Johnson government with a substantial majority waving through the reforms to the GRA. Blair's government was lobbied hard to introduce the GRA in the first place and back then, when hardly anyone knew anything about the subject, Parliament accepted far too readily, with minimal critical thinking, that this was just a straightforward add on to extending gay rights and anyway it would only affect a few thousand people. Perfectly clear from Hansard at the time that some MPs could see the potential problems, but they were written off as right-wing dinosaurs, especially as they included Anne Widdecombe and Norman Tebbit. Most people swallowed whole the line that this was being kind to an oppressed minority and wouldn't affect anyone else at all, and look where that's got us.

I really don't think that could happen now. Journalists like Helen Lewis are part of the reason why, and for that I thank her. It could have happened with a Corbyn government, though, or even in a hung parliament, as part of some sort of horsetrading.