Woman asking nhs to pay for US surrogacy

I'd rather the NHS paid for this than single sex couples to have IVF on the NHS

Why?

This is the same case as before, I think? The court ruled awarding costs for two children but the woman wants 4.

The compassionate outcome is for her to lose the case and get some counselling to deal with her loss. The NHS keeps its £500k to, perhaps, use in better spotting cervical cancers in young women.

Christmas she has been compensated already. Nobody has got away with anything. Of course she should get compensation. That does not give her the right to demand that she should be permitted to purchase her ideal sized family from another country. Nobody, no matter how badly treated, has the right to demand that the state provides them with four children. As I said, you can’t always have what you want.

Hope she loses. No one has the right to a child, much less 4, or to rent out other women's bodies to buy babies.

A woman a couple of years ago did actually win her case and the NHS had to pay for surrogacy costs in the USA

It really depends how negligent the NHS was - did they wilfully ignore it time and time again in which case she definitely has a case?

I'd rather the NHS paid for this than single sex couples to have IVF on the NHS

The NHS left her infertile and she suing for damages, this is merely a way of trying to quantify them. Do you think that medical organisations should be allowed the be negligent with no repercussions?

I hope she loses too. You can’t always have what you want and she has already been legally compensated for her loss as a result of them missing the cancer. Ridiculous.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3456144-Woman-awarded-costs-of-paying-for-commercial-surrogacy-in-US-from-UK-taxpayers-due-to-NHS-mistakes

Previous thread on this case:

She's taking the piss if she has already had compensation.

Who can even say for sure they want 4 children until they already have three?

It was a shitty situation that caused her infertility, but her behaviour since is hard to sympathise with. What if one of her hypothetical US surrogates were to experience a pregnancy induced health crisis that resulted in her infertility (or inability to care for current children)? Where would the litigation end?

I hope this woman loses, and she has to pay the NHS's legal costs as well. There's no reason why the NHS/public should be funding anyone to have a 4th child.

If she’s already had compensation, surely that reflects the impact on her life and she could us this money if she wants. If you had fertility issues through no fault of the NHS, they would not pay for anyone to have four pregnancies through IVF as far as I’m aware.

She shouldn't get money for renting other women's bodies, doing something illegal here, and buying babies.

In the theoretical case that this money was awarded - what happens if one of the surrogates is rendered infertile by that pregnancy - would the NHS then be liable for giving her money to complete her family through surrogacy?

I hope this gets thrown out. The NHS should not be buying babies

I don't even know what to say here.

She already had a massive pay out. A relative of mine had an unnecessary hysterectomy following a mix up with cervical smears at our local hospital back in the 90s, she was told she had cancer when she didn't. She had one child at the time and would have liked more which obviously she couldn't have due to the mistake. She and her fellow complainants got twelve grand each, which even allowing for inflation is a way lower figure than half a million.

And now this woman is seeking more to pay for a process that isn't even legal here?

Gobsmacked.

Wow just wow. As someone who is infertile I know it is not my right to have one child let alone four!

I have sympathy for her medical negligence claim but I have no sympathy at all for this. Surrogacy is nothing more than exploiting less privileged women.

Why can’t she pay for the surrogacy from her compensation? What if she’s successful but after one child she changes her mind. Does the NHS get the rest of their back money back?
It seems an incredible leap to make from being properly compensated for medical negligence to money from the NHS being paid direct to American commercial surrogates. I wish the poor woman well but I hope she’s not successful.

My brain goes numb at her determination that the state should pay for her to have four children, out of other women’s bodies.

Yes, she can do whatever she likes with the money she has already received. (Although many women don’t agree with exploiting poorer women for their bodies) but why should the NHS pay for more?

I think four is fair enough actually. If the damage she’d suffered was such that conventional IVF would be an option, and she would previously have wanted four children (subject to the uncertainties of life) then an award for enough private cycles to give her a decent shot at four children, (twelve cycles? Twenty?) would be entirely reasonable. Awards do get discounted a bit for the “it might have all gone wrong anyway” factor but only a bit.

she's already been awarded compensation. suing separately for more money is inappropriate regardless of the morality of surrogacy. the compensation she had already had is plenty to allow her to buy her way into having children by one means or another. that is what compensation is - a monetary contribution to allow you to buy whatever mitigation might be available for the damage done.

separately, expecting the amount to cover 4 children is unreasonable. if this tragedy had not happened and she had conceived without difficulty first time, there is no knowing whether she might then have had done kind of birth complication which wasn't anyone's fault, or experienced secondary infertility, etc. she needs to accept that lots of people don't get the family size they want and it's not about blame.