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'Rough sex' defences: Grazia mag asks party leaders to act

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WomanDaresTo · 10/12/2019 09:02

Hi all

Fiona from We Can't Consent to This here - just thought i'd update you on some progress in our mumsnet viper originated campaign to end the use of 'rough sex' claims in the killing or injury of women.

Grazia magazine have been incredible and are fully supporting our campaign. They have used their UK party leaders questions special to ask Jo Swinson, Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson: will you reintroduce the Domestic Abuse bill and back Harriet Harman's amendment to ban the so-called '50 shades' defence?

And all three said yes (or very like it).

It's not online yet but it's in the shops today -more here graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/boris-johnson-jeremy-corbyn/

We'll be asking everyone to write to new MPs once they're in place, and also working on media guidelines for reporting on this in the new year. All details will be here wecantconsenttothis.uk/actnow

there is also a petition but please don't link as this'll get sent to the doldrums of the Petitions board

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stumbledin · 13/12/2019 00:10

I've been following this campaign and sharing (as others have) info on facebook as it is so necessary.

And like to say am so impressed by how much has been achieved.

And then to find out there's a mumsnet connection Flowers

FannyCann · 12/12/2019 22:43

Any time anyone defends strangulation hit them with this. It is indefensible in all circumstances. I'm not going to pussy foot around "consenting adults / bdsm" or whatever other tripe they come out with.

www.dementia.org/oxygen-deprivation-dementia

'Rough sex' defences: Grazia mag asks party leaders to act
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WomanDaresTo · 11/12/2019 15:28

DON'T TELL ANYONE.

I might have made a little snuffle on the tube there

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stillathing · 11/12/2019 14:26

Amazing to see such positive action!

VMisaMarshmallow · 11/12/2019 14:08

Itsall that’s what I thought. I stopped even causally reading years ago due to their misogyny. But maybe they are learning and growing?

Jux · 11/12/2019 12:16

To my shame, I've only just found this - have been aware for some time though, so Blush

Fabulous work Fiona, thank you so much for this. I am increasingly worried about the sort of world my daughter, now 20, is facing.

LangCleg · 11/12/2019 12:12

This is proper feminist activism

It really, really is. I might have welled up. DON'T TELL ANYONE.

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WomanDaresTo · 11/12/2019 12:07

Oh lads Flowers

Learned everything here I did, all of it.

Managed to get "you're so open minded that your brains fall out' on the bbc:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000c5md

skip to 2:13:20, or whole interview starts at 2:03:00

Magdalen Flowers

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BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/12/2019 11:22

This is proper feminist activism

You’re changing the world Fiona
Flowers

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WomanDaresTo · 11/12/2019 09:11

You are all lovely.

We're in the Indy today:

The leaders of all three main parties have pledged to introduce laws combatting the rising number of killers claiming that women died during “rough sex”.

The defence was recently used by the murderer of British backpacker Grace Millane, as well as a man whose partner died after suffering 40 separate injuries in the West Midlands.

Boris Johnson, Jeremy Corbyn and Jo Swinson have now all backed new laws to stop the “rough sex defence”, which campaigners say has been used after the deaths of at least 59 women in the UK.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-rough-sex-defence-deaths-grace-millane-natalie-connolly-a9240976.html

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FannyCann · 10/12/2019 22:09

Thank you so much Fiona, and congratulations on the progress you are making.

Just want to add a link to your podcast for Feminist Current. Very interesting discussion. I forwarded the link to my daughter at uni with instructions to listen and share with her friends.

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/feminist-current/id603245791?i=1000454721813

WineGummyBear · 10/12/2019 18:41

Awesome awesome work!

Sharing your website with friends and family.

ChattyLion · 10/12/2019 18:40

Fiona you are absolutely amazing- so many congratulations! Thank you for all your amazing political and media work around this. I’m sure you’ll get this legal change through. Brilliant. Flowers

SlightlyWizened · 10/12/2019 18:20

Signed!

BadgertheBodger · 10/12/2019 18:08

Fiona that is incredible! Brava, you’re amazing. You’ve done brilliantly to get this out there, sending buckets of gin and Flowers

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 10/12/2019 18:03

AMAZING

have signed the petition.

Uncompromisingwoman · 10/12/2019 18:00

Well done Woman. To make such progress in such a short time is awesome. And yes, given the silence that politicians have about other matters that negatively affect women, this is long overdue.

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WomanDaresTo · 10/12/2019 17:57

Harriet Harman's tweeted the whole leaders' responses here if you want a nosey
twitter.com/HarrietHarman/status/1204398106672058371?s=19

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MountainWitch · 10/12/2019 11:50

Signed and shared, thank you for your work on this, it needs daylight.

GrinitchSpinach · 10/12/2019 11:40

Awesome! I really mean that; totally in awe of what you are doing, Fiona. What a woman!

LangCleg · 10/12/2019 10:38

Apologies to the actually terrified Sky floor manager bloke who I HISSED this at yesterday

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When you're talking about something as serious as this, you have to take the gallows humour where you can! Pity the poor old mansquirm!

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WomanDaresTo · 10/12/2019 10:32

Squee Lang

I've learned yesterday it's not only important to ask broadcasters in advance "how often can we say SEX", it's helpful if you mention why you're asking. Apologies to the actually terrified Sky floor manager bloke who I HISSED this at yesterday

(sky we agreed you can say anything, bbc little bit more restrictive)

I'm on Radio 5 tonight from 1030 in a 45 minute!! piece, will share once I have it.

Here's us from last week, on the horrifying normalisation of violent assault - choking, slapping, spitting and gagging - of women in consensual sex-with 38% of women under 40 reporting this

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07wbvzg

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LangCleg · 10/12/2019 10:06

Fiona - I saw you on Sky News yesterday afternoon. You were fantastic! So, so, so, so proud of you.

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WomanDaresTo · 10/12/2019 09:55

Clicky
Twitter: twitter.com/wecantconsentto
FB www.facebook.com/We-Cant-Consent-To-This-104076750999181/
Insta instagram.com/wecantconsentto

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WomanDaresTo · 10/12/2019 09:54

I should shamelessly link to our social media which has frequent updates on the campaign trail and the petition
Twitter: twitter.com/wecantconsentto
FB www.facebook.com/We-Cant-Consent-To-This-104076750999181/
Insta instagram.com/wecantconsentto

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