Jo Swinson on Today programme now!!

I want to hear that line of questioning to Corbyn since he says he believes the same things.

Also Johnson. I know it isn't in the Tory manifesto but it is under a Tory government that violent men have been put into women's prisons where they have been, quelle surprise, violent to women. He needs dragging over the coals.

What’s that whooshing sound? Mx Swinsons political career flushing down the loo?

Who are those who are fleeing domestic violence? Those living in abusive homes? Young women being forced into marriages?

Ans as for the ‘women can be abusive to...’and how exactly are refuge staff supposed to immediately assess a person on their doorstep as to whether they are genuine or a danger to the women? And will they be able to say ‘no Danielle, no room for you...’

Are they more vulnerable than child refugees? Adults with learning difficulties? Residents in care homes? It’s just the biggest load of shit.

I am so sick of hearing the old "some of the most vulnerable women in our society" trope.

I think it's more a case of a complete absence of intelligence on her part. She's as shallow as grapheme, but without the useful applications

Even for a politico, her mediocrity is quite spectacular. I read here she was instrumental in Charles Kennedy’s fall which has made me dislike her even more. I am not a Lib Dem but have the greatest respect for Charles Kennedy and his moral courage when it mattered in 2003.

I may have punched a dozing DH in the arm and whooped...
😂😂😂😂

Shame he didn’t mention the pharma company donations as the coup de grace...

Complete contempt for the intelligence of her audience.

I think it's more a case of a complete absence of intelligence on her part. She's as shallow as grapheme, but without the useful applications.

transwomen are the most vulnerable

Yep, I bet that Hannah Mouncey and Veronica Ivy are shit scared of little old me

She actually just said in one breath “there shouldn’t be a hierarchy of equalities because transwomen are the most vulnerable

Complete contempt for the intelligence of her audience. The Newspeak isn’t working....

Anyone else think Justin saying "if you were in the studio right now I could do you great harm with my male body" was a bit sinister!?

Yes, but intentionally and benevolently so, because it made the point that even ostensibly nice, normal men are a threat to women because of their superior strength. It made it clear how idiotic JS' caveats about risk assessments are - abusive men (or TW) do not come with a convenient label.

I think the Tories and Labour should be grilled on this too.
Labour brought in the GRA and trampled over the definition of women in their own ‘all women’ shortlists.
The Cons have been the ones in power while single sex exemptions have been ignored or condemned.
The libs haven’t caused the current situation.

She actually just said in one breath “there shouldn’t be a hierarchy of equalities because transwomen are the most vulnerable”

Eh?

We’ve started calling them the Illiberal Delusionals in this house now. Have voted for them in the past as well.

I hope this is Jo Swinson’s swansong at the polls....

I’m sure there are some lesbians who are violent to their partners. As there are some heterosexual women who are violent to their partners.

There’s not some great lesbian crime wave though. Over 98% of violent crimes are committed by males and there is no evidence that males declaring a trans identity alters their behaviour.

She’s a massive homophobe for even suggesting lesbians are a risk in the same way men are.

Justin missed the point that if any male person can say he's trans, a loophole a mile wide has been opened up for sexual predators. We know that people like that will do anything to get their hands on their victims, so....

And for God's sake, Justin, pick up the use of 'cis'. I am not prepared to be defined as a cis woman. I am a woman. That is the biological reality.

But on the whole, he nailed it.

Is "Jo Swindon" also autocorrect, or is she still stuck on the Magic (thinking) Roundabout?

Did she clearly say she doesn’t believe in biological sex? I thought she fudged the answer a bit, saying something about chromosome abnormalities without really answering the Q, but I may not have been listening properly.

I have a feeling there is quite a big difference

It’s another talking point which disintegrates if challenged. Jo Swinson has an imperious expectation that she will be allowed to trot out vacuous cliches while the media genuflects.

I don't think he was sinister- I thought it was a very effective point. She had just said that he was suggested trans people are the threat. He was pointing out that MEN are the threat.
She had said she didn't think sex was binary (becuase chromosome problems- how to confuse trans & intersex) and he was pointing out, using his maleness that sex is binary.
And not always in a good way for women.

Himophobe

I mean homophobe

Lol. She's definitely not a himophobe. Jo is all about the him.

She's "No Expert," but now I'm living in terror of all these vicious lesbians roaming the streets. Is anyone safe?

I wonder what proportion of lesbians are murdered by their lesbian partner compared to women murdered by their male partners. I have a feeling there is quite a big difference.

It also misses the point. This isn't purely about sexual assault. If two women get into a heated argument about, I dunno, a parking space, then that's an entirely different dynamic and risk profile to if a man and a woman get into a heated argument.

Anyone else think Justin saying "if you were in the studio right now I could do you great harm with my male body" was a bit sinister!?

I thought that too 1000umbrellas but I think it was because Jo Swinson had said reports about transgender women being over represented in prisons etc were made up by the media. I think Justin Webb was just trying to make the point that the vast majority of men could appear physically threatening to women if they wanted so used himself as an example. The perils of live interviewing.