Jo Swinson taking calls on Radio 5 at 9am

She simply does not have any power, I believe, to effect anything.

I suppose you're right - she admitted as much on R4 last Friday - she said she had no power to expel Rennard, (I didn't even realise he was still a member!) or to stop him being on the campaign trail.

The more Jo Swinson talks, the more her policies unravel. Not just on self ID, on everything, it seems.

She just doesn't come across well at all. Even stuff that I agree with her on (eg brexit) she doesn't come across well

Neuro,
That’s outrageous. It means it’s not possible to refute this absurd argument by citing statistics. It’s manipulation of data to render it meaningless. And I bet it’s politically motivated.

Jo Swinson is not really the leader of the Lib-Dems - she is merely the figure head. She simply does not have any power, I believe, to effect anything.

Round of applause for Anna

The Leader of the Liberal Democrats cannot say what a woman is. My brain just cannot compute that.

The caller was great but GC arguments are simple and clear

This is why transactivists call for no debate.

Try again:

The lady that called in was ace! I'm new to these sorts of issues but feel she put it in a really eloquent way and made the issue apparent to anyone.

I would have liked to be able to touch on dv a bit more.

Felt JS's answer was very poor and evasive

Excluding some females from having any spaces or provisions to give a small percentage of males more freedom of choice and expression.

Removing provision for females so that males may have free access to it all at will without boundaries.

Seeing harm to females who will suffer due to this policy as acceptable collateral damage.

Own it Swinson, you craven, deeply sexist coward.

Helen Belcher is the one responsible for the LibDem gender policies, yes? Then let Belcher carry the can. I'm sure Belcher would come across just brilliantly in a live radio interview with a non fawning journalist.

Anna, if you are here . Superb question and excellent follow ups. You put it in the clearest terms, with the clearest most simple examples and she couldn't answer. Thank you.

It reminds of Janice Turner shredding Maria Milled, albeit in a print interview, Miller was a lot less bellicose about the issue afterwards and managed to get herself shifted so someone else could carry the can. Nobody wants to carry the can now.

I don't think they will ditch it, they will just be afraid to answer questions on it.

I can see all the parties PR wonks studying that interview and thinking stear clear of the GRA. Will there be anyone wishing to reform it now

I think that is wishful thinking. Once in power the manifestos will still apply. None of them are going to row right back- just like that.

" No he doesn't. He doesn't know what is going to come out of his mouth until he opens it"

what I meant is that he doesn't quiver with self doubt

I don't think she really believes it either. She's just being polite

She has said in interviews she has a 'good girl' complex. She just wants to be nice and for everything to be lovely.

Its hard to remember a party leader looking so unconvincing in answering a question. She literally has not even convinced herself.

I can see all the parties PR wonks studying that interview and thinking stear clear of the GRA. Will there be anyone wishing to reform it now? If the BBC rang her up would Dawn Butler fancy doing an interview on the issue? Or would she have another engagement. Would Jeremy Corbyn or Penny Mordaunt still wish to boldy tell the world Transwoman are Women?

Love the headscarf question. A headscarf is not gender-neutral. But let kids wear what they want for school uniform

What was the headscarf question?

In my view the issue of ethnic rights and equalities is where the Liberals will be most crucified. They instinctively want for Muslim women to have the right to wear what they choose - sort of thing......
but what will happen when it comes to male bodies in intimate (Muslim) female spaces? Who, and what, will top 'the hierarchy of rights' league table? Are transwomen more oppressed than Muslim women...or do Muslims just have to shove up and make space like the rest of us?

I thought that Hannah (?) came across really well, especially with the follow-up. The gender pay-gap bit was priceless.

Boris believes his own bullshit

No he doesn't. He doesn't know what is going to come out of his mouth until he opens it.

The old cliche about if you can't explain something then you don't understand it does rather come to mind. Though in this case nobody else does either.

I don't think she really believes it either. She's just being polite.

I do wonder if last week's canvasser (who didn't know any of this was in their manifesto) has listened to either of this morning's interviews by his leader.

eventually gets on to trans and cis women but says that last bit so sheepishly

She did, didn't she?
Politicians need to stop saying 'cis' if they want to be taken seriously. It doesn't mean anything in the real world, and if you don't have the ovaries/balls to acknowledge that women exist as a sex class that doesn't include any men, then politics probably isn't for you.

She knew what a woman was when she wrote her book 'Equal Power'

She knew what a female was when she answered the question about pe...