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What does it mean to live as a woman for a year?

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jewel1968 · 08/12/2019 10:26

If I understand things correctly if an individual wants to undergo gender reassignment now they are expected to live in the preferred gender for a year. So, if someone born male wants to reassign their gender they would be expected to live as a woman for a year. What does that actually mean? What would happen if they dressed in jeans and T-shirt and Doc Martens and sported a short haircut and didn't wear any makeup might they be challenged for not living as a woman? Who decides what it means to live as a woman?

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testing987654321 · 08/12/2019 11:05

You do need medical reports as well.

Ibloodylovewomen · 08/12/2019 11:03

Surely it means being paid less, taking on unpaid caring responsibilities, doing more housework and buying/wrapping all the Christmas presents?

GladAllOver · 08/12/2019 11:00

One simple test.
Drop pants and show that you have no longer have a penis.

ginghamstarfish · 08/12/2019 10:57

change the name on your gas bill?? FFS what is happening to the world?

Kit19 · 08/12/2019 10:57

I have been wondering this - so all I need to do to become a man is change my name on the gas bill & that’s proof I’ve lived as a man???

FOR FUCKS SAKE

AdultHumanWithOvaries · 08/12/2019 10:51

jewel I have no idea what a feminine name is tbh. There are names that are normally given to girls and those normally given to boys.

If a person has a unisex name (Sam, Riley, Jordon etc) does that mean they're non binary? If they have a name normally given to the opposite sex, does that mean they're transgender?

Utter claptrap IMO.

LangCleg · 08/12/2019 10:49

So, to become a member of group holding a protected characteristic under EqA, all you need to do is change the name on your gas bill.

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jewel1968 · 08/12/2019 10:49

I agree. I think women present in so many different ways visually. I can vary from jeans and T-shirt to full on makeup and skirts etc.... I have friends who only wear jeans and T-SHIRT and never wear makeup. I think men are way more rigid in what they wear.

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LangCleg · 08/12/2019 10:48

Here you go, from the horse's mouth of the government:

Proof you’ve lived in your acquired gender

This proof must cover the required time that you’ve lived in your acquired gender. It could include copies of your:

passport
driving licence
payslips or benefit documents
utility bills or other documents of an official nature

All documents should be in your acquired name and gender. The earliest document must be dated before the beginning of the required time.

www.gov.uk/apply-gender-recognition-certificate/documents-you-must-provide

LangCleg · 08/12/2019 10:45

Yes, it just means changing the name on your gas bill. A matter of paperwork only.

testing987654321 · 08/12/2019 10:43

I am sure I have read transgender people complain about this requirement as they would get questioned if not womanly "enough". So skirts and makeup a bit of a requirement.

What I want to know is, if someone 'feels they are really a woman', what possible criteria could there be? Literally the only constant among women are our bodies.

Style, intelligence, interests, personality are all varied.

Transgender people are uncomfortable with their own body and gender stereotypes, it doesn't mean they are really the opposite sex.

AdultHumanWithOvaries · 08/12/2019 10:42

IMO the only way to be a woman is to be an adult human female. There isn't any other way.

It would be interesting to see if there was a way to test this measurement in court and expose it for the sexist bullshit it is....

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jewel1968 · 08/12/2019 10:40

What is a feminine name?

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 08/12/2019 10:38

I think the Scottish Government decided this meant having a feminine name on a gas or utility bill - though you are not allowed to ask if they do.

OhHolyJesus · 08/12/2019 10:34

Well exactly, I don't think an inspector comes round to see if they are 'womaning' correctly. It's just a broad, vague arbitrary so-called measurement but I dispose to do something for a year shows some kind of commitment.

If I did yoga classes every Sunday for a year it would show a solid interest but it wouldn't make me a yoga teacher.

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