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Legal action launched in row between National Theatre and lesbian group

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LangCleg · 08/12/2019 09:40

Legal action is being launched in a dispute between the National Theatre and a group of lesbian claimants.

A group of women claim their human rights were violated when they were refused service at a theatre bar in July this year.

They allege they were turned away for sporting t-shirts with definitions, including “Lesbian – noun - a woman who loves other women”, before being confronted and asked to leave by security.

Go, Julia, Anne et al!

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Staffori · 08/12/2019 14:42

Remember the excellent blog written at the time www.peaktrans.org/blog-a-gay-man-and-several-lesbians-walked-into-a-bar/

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/12/2019 12:27

It's certainly be very useful to have the definitions (offensiveness) of "woman" and "lesbian" and defined in court.

Mumsnut · 08/12/2019 11:56

My spade has been utilised...

BovaryX · 08/12/2019 11:54

^In legal documents seen by The Telegraph, it is claimed that the lesbian women were turned away due to staff feeling their t-shirts would offend a transgender colleague
“It’s a kind of liberal, inclusive enemy, which I think obfuscates it, makes it a lot harder for people to see,” said Dr Julia Long, who was among the women present at the National on July 5 this year, and in whose name the legal action is being launched
“If the National Theatre can get away with barring lesbians from their premises for wearing t-shirts saying who we are, that is terrifying.”^
From the Telegraph, which unfortunately doesn’t do share tokens I can use on this forum

ScrimshawTheSecond · 08/12/2019 11:28

Great. Good luck to them.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 08/12/2019 11:26

Nod’s as good as a wink but sadly I am apparently internet blind Confused
I shall find the information elsewhere Wink

Angryresister · 08/12/2019 11:21

Spade out, hole dug

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 08/12/2019 11:20

Ah found it. So important to find crowd justice, particularly when looking to support equal treatment for lesbians.
Good luck Anne and Julia.

BovaryX · 08/12/2019 11:15

It was reading a tiny paragraph about this incident which eventually led me to this forum. Initially, I couldn’t quite believe what I was reading. Now I am not surprised. I wish them the best of luck.

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 08/12/2019 11:13

Grin excellent posts here today.

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LangCleg · 08/12/2019 11:01

The crowd approach to justice is so important, I think.

Me too. Also, we should note that Julia Long and Anne Ruzylo prioritise Ensuring Equal Treatment For Lesbians.

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teawamutu · 08/12/2019 10:50

The crowd approach to justice is so important, I think.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 08/12/2019 10:49

Excellent!
(Am I missing a search term or am I too early? “Crowdfunding, lesbian, national theatre, legal” isn’t getting me where I want to go)

teawamutu · 08/12/2019 10:49

There's probably a crowdfunder and it's probably a legal one and it's probably asking for equal treatment for lesbians...

Sounds like the sort of thing Julia Long and Anne Ruzylo would do.

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 08/12/2019 10:36

Woohoo! Right behind you!

Best of luck.

breakfastpizza · 08/12/2019 10:32

They have enough money put aside in case they lose, right? I don’t want to be all doom and gloom but a local group to me launched a case against the local council. It looked like a no brainer they would win (it was less contentious than trans stuff) but the judge ruled against them and lumbered them with the councils costs. They’re obligated to meet those personally and they run into ££,£££. It was really shocking and I wouldn’t want that to happen to anyone else.

In a human rights case? Surely costs would only be awarded if the charges were vexatious and/or they'd acted unreasonably?

thereplycamefromanchorage · 08/12/2019 10:26

Great news. Best of luck to them.

PurpleHoodie · 08/12/2019 10:22

ItsChristmaaaaaaaaas

That made me laugh.

Good luck, ladies Flowers

PegasusReturns · 08/12/2019 10:04

Great news and good luck to them. I'm sure plenty of women wish them success and are prepared to support Smile

HarrietTheFly · 08/12/2019 10:02

Good luck to them! Great news and I really hope they win. That was outrageous treatment by the national theatre.

ItsChristmaaaaaaaaas · 08/12/2019 09:59

Does this mean I can now walk past the theatre without giving them the V sign?

What are their loos like?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 08/12/2019 09:57

This is good news.

ItsChristmaaaaaaaaas · 08/12/2019 09:57

I see a lot of T-shirt’s being bought for Christmas presents...

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LangCleg · 08/12/2019 09:57

There's probably a crowdfunder and it's probably a legal one and it's probably asking for equal treatment for lesbians...

Wink
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Datun · 08/12/2019 09:56

It's a win-win.

If they win, the National Theatre are forced to confirm they won't be throwing lesbians out for being lesbians. Openly. With T-shirts. And promotional material.

And if they lose, the National Theatre will be forced to say exactly the same. We didn't. We wouldn't. The very idea.

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