Article about 'non binary'

Good. This is a fucking awful thing to lie about. Especially the smug winning over the howwid bigoted pawent.

Who'd have thunk it?

Posted on another thread, it's looking quite likely that Rain Dove made these conversations up.

Well I for one am shocked and outraged.

Seems to be a bit of a habit in woke circles this 'making stuff up because they don't have any arguments to support their nonsense' business.

Posted on another thread, it's looking quite likely that Rain Dove made these conversations up. This is my surprised face.

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466

There used to be tens or hundreds where now there are thousands of girls pushing for transition. Thousands.

But it's not been widely discussed. It was never presented as a option for me as a child and back then there was no way to find out about it.

Which meant that the only people transitioning had already spent years under medical support. They were grown , with a problem that started very young and persisted into full adulthood.

It was a last resort, not a choice, not a way forward if al else fails but a desperate measure

@MIdgebabe medical transition has been happening since the 1930's so it has been happening for a considerable time.

Becuase your approach to harm reduction doesn't look like harm reduction at all?

In the past the VAST majority of trans identifying children grew up as normal happy adults. Now a significant proportion are ending up on a medical pathway which is physically harming them, with no evidence to support any long term mental health improvement , and some evidence to suggest that mental health does not improve.

So, since more people are being harmed than in the past, that's not harm reduction in my eyes

provided you go through the hoops you can get what you want...which is actually harmful. Because it's easy to find out what the hoops are. Because when you are a troubled teen you know better than anyone what the truth is about yourself, so you will happily disregard anything which contradicts that truth. And then 30 years later you realise how inward looking and naive you were, and how pain clouded your judgement

@ACatWhoBinds I have to say well siad, I agree with everything you have written.

Therapy should be the first port of call for everything. I honestly think everyone should do it. And that doesn’t contradict opening a dialogue with the child and possibly getting a binder for them. They should be given therapy, not forced to deny their feelings. They might get through it and realise they’re more comfortable with it but they might feel even more certain about it. And hormones are one of the last resorts, I know, but if that’s what’s necessary then denying it isn’t good (after having therapy/talking about it/having a dialogue with parents). A very close friend of mine had horrific dysphoria and at first his mum didn’t want him to go to the doctors. He seriously considered buying testosterone on the deep web. We talked about it and agreed that it wouldn’t be a safe option. He’s on it now (he’s 19) and the change is amazing. It makes me so happy to see him happy. And this is the UK, rather than the US, but my point is still the same. Why is harm reduction such a bad thing? As long as all the options and outcomes are discussed and the decision is made sensibly

Growing up a fair percentage if us were constantly embarassed by our changing bodies, the reaction of boys and men didn't help. If you didn't grow up a girl then butt out, you can't imagine what it was like.

Is there such a thing as grooming by proxy? Safeguarding states that safe adults don't mimic the behaviours of unsafe adults. It confuses children and erodes their boundaries, it creates an illusion of trust.

unless you have gender dysphoria then I don't think you can really comment on stuff you have no clue about! Simple!

Excellent. Now, can you please start telling transwomen that they know fuck all about being a woman? Thanks in advance.

Well I am not a transman.
But I am pretty sure if I was 30 years younger I would be.
If we look at my feelings as an older child and through my teenage years, i couldn't understand what had gone wrong, why I wasn't David. I certainly wasn't a girl. There is darker stuff too. But trans wasn't given to me as a option.

Which meant I just had to face reality and get on with living.

as I get older I understand and am grateful for my health, lack of medicalisation, mental strength, and pride at what I have achieved despite being female, how I have helped change minds about women ( cringe, sorry , just an ordinary woman in tech, one of the fist however recruited into the company)

So body dismorphia, yes, gender dysmorphia, also yes, yet clearly i never trans I guess, but I will never accept female as a gender identity.

but my question is then do you tell true trans and those who can grow into themselves ? Accept themselves warts and all.

@birdsdestiny I simply came on to answer the question the op asked. Not to listen to people's opinions on what I can do to my own body.

Of course, everyone is non-binary then.

If gender is a spectrum then there is no binary to be non binary about.

Sorted.

Does that apply to everything. If you are not a woman you cant comment on stuff you have no clue about?

@SonEtLumiere unless you have gender dysphoria then I don't think you can really comment on stuff you have no clue about! Simple!