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Janice Turner thanks the LibDems

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TimeLady · 07/12/2019 03:47

Great column from Janice today: Flowers

"Jo Swinson chose wokeness over women’s rights"

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jo-swinson-chose-wokeness-over-womens-rights-jm26ldx35?shareToken=1bb1b5a3e627aa308f03953a99c59666

I might send Jo Swinson a bunch of flowers. My card will read: “Thank you for making reform of the Gender Recognition Act a flagship Liberal Democrat election policy, thus finally giving journalists permission to expose the consequences for women’s rights and safety.”

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PaleBlueMoonlight · 07/12/2019 09:20

It is a good article.

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TimeLady · 07/12/2019 09:19

This is the time for newly elected GC MPs to up their game and get themselves on to the new Women & Equalities Committee. That way they can ensure all voices are heard. They don't even have to go around making public pronouncements, just ensure fair representation for all.

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NotBadConsidering · 07/12/2019 09:17

Brilliant article.

On Newsnight, Sarah Wollaston (a medical doctor) revealed she does not believe a baby’s biological sex is observed at birth but “gender is assigned” by some random sorting hat

This made me GrinGrin. Then she said this:

Asked if she’s concerned that self-ID will be abused by predatory men she said: “There will be, of course, a very tiny number of individuals who will seek to exploit this to behave as violent criminals towards women and you need a separate route for these people.”

so then I went and looked her up and her Wiki page has this:

She was also a police surgeon from 1996 to 2001, dealing with victims of sexual assaults

And now I’m ShockShockAngry. She’s seen first hand the outcomes of sexual assault by men at the most acute point and STILL can’t see an issue?

Just....WTF?

HandsOffMyRights · 07/12/2019 09:00

It is not progressive or liberating to medically alter people who don't conform to stereotypes.

This

HandsOffMyRights · 07/12/2019 08:59

Thanks for the share and thanks again to Janice for keeping on top of this.

Smallblanket · 07/12/2019 08:56

Very grateful to Janice for articulating so well the essence of the problem. And for raising again at the end the astronomic rise in trans-identifying teens and young people. It is not progressive or liberating to medically alter people who don't conform to stereotypes.

refusetobeasheep · 07/12/2019 08:55

Superb piece by Janice - it says it all really.

SomeVelvetMorning · 07/12/2019 08:53

Are you still holding to they will make huge profits out of trans related surgery tin foil hat theory?

It's likely Brexit related due to EU staff.

WrathofFaeKlop · 07/12/2019 08:49

I'm not entirely sure why Spire made a donation to the Lib Dems

Hmmm, I wonder why the owners of Spire made two large donations to the Lib Dems.

It's a right puzzle that one.Xmas Hmm

Cuntysnark · 07/12/2019 08:18

Agh. Sorry-not apparently. Seems to have been...

Cuntysnark · 07/12/2019 08:17

I’ve also written one to Jenni Murray as she’s apparently been gagged.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 07/12/2019 08:04

Janice Turner is the reason I started subscribing to the Times.

Cuntysnark · 07/12/2019 07:52

That’s an excellent article. Thank you Janice. I’ve got some cards to write, Janice, Emily, Emma and Joanna Cherry (Joanna this week just for being Joanna) I’m also off to buy a paper copy of the Times, previously I’d have got my free copy from Waitrose but they can fottfsof.

Milanimilani · 07/12/2019 06:54

I’m looking forwards to the full exposure finally being shone on this cult by journalists. It’s about time.

Pixxie7 · 07/12/2019 05:56

Jo Swinson is self serving will always put her interest first even her manifesto promises are advantageous for her.

SomeVelvetMorning · 07/12/2019 05:51

Thinking on it Spire's donation might be anti-Brexit led. They probably have loads of non UK staff in their hospitals.

SomeVelvetMorning · 07/12/2019 05:18

Jean Hatchet's tin foil conspiracy theory about Spire healthcare has already been debunked on another thread.

A tiny number of plastic surgeons at Spire facilities offer facial feminisation surgery. I'm not entirely sure why Spire made a donation to the Lib Dems but the idea that the Lib Dem policy on self ID will vastly increase Spire's profits because of this type of surgery is pure tin foil hattery.

2BthatUnnoticed · 07/12/2019 04:35

It would appear she chose cold hard cash over Women’s rights

Janice Turner thanks the LibDems