Thanks primark

A dad went in with his little girl (she was about 10) and I watched men coming out - some flustered and grumbling or looking a bit bothered

Catch 22 isnt it. Child cant go try on on her own because its posdible an unsafe mixed sex space,so dad has to go in with her creating a definate mixed sex space

The biggest frustration is that if society and policing made the aggressive, abusive behaviour so aborant it was only a hover carried out by a few disturbed few, shared spaces would not be a problem

Yy men don't want this either.

Agree if course the safety concerns aren't the same.

I was waiting for my other half outside the men’s loos in John Lewis (who have unisex changing rooms).

A dad went in with his little girl (she was about 10) and I watched men coming out - some flustered and grumbling or looking a bit bothered.

Men (mostly) don’t want mixed spaces - especially if there are little girls. And the men who do actively want it, well my granny has a word for them.

Other point
How many teen boys want to try stuff on if there are a group of girls outside a flimsy curtain?
Yes - I know the safety concerns aren't the same but my son would have been absolutely mortified.

Presumably they wouldn't have an issue with men using them, and would look to educate any women who complained, same as I think pretty much everywhere now.

If I saw a bloke in the ladies these days I wouldn't say anything, you can't can you. 2 years ago you would have said erm this is the ladies and they'd have scarpered (have done this on a few occasions). I'm talking about men who 'present' as men who were up to various things.

Well..... at least the loos in such stores is sex based (for now).

Other point
How many teen boys want to try stuff on if there are a group of girls outside a flimsy curtain?
Loads of boys are v shy

Who actually wants this???

Men with no empathy design this thoughtless crap, or... are we sure it’s thoughtless?
Women’s spaces are places where, almost no man has set foot, the strength and safety in that is special. Also I think cameras will be a problem.
Never mind isn’t fast-fashion out of fashion due to it’s affect on the climate?

It is no coincidence that department stores with fitting rooms were created at the same time public toilets for women were provided.
Women being able to participate in the public sphere changed more than people realize.
Undoing those changes have been surprisingly easy so far.

I'm off there tomorrow op

Makes me sick I also have to go get dd fitted in a shop that has fallen and and any shopping after sill present the same problems. Had planned on popping in to primark as dd also wants to raid the crap for xmas present for friends and look for clothes.

No one wants this and yet they have to the people that do what this knowing that the only reason anyone eoyod want this is for nefarious reasons. Even trans people font want gender neutral as they cant validate their identities using them.

If its a new shop and they want mixed sex changing then they should have done rooms opening onto the shop floor with proper doors and? Really plain so cameras easy to spot and staff checking regularly or something? The camera thing is a real issue.

Of course it means you can't come out to look from a distance in mirror / show your mates / get a hand with a zip / poke your head out and ask for a different size unless you are super confident! So quite a lot is lost with that approach...

Anyway they didn't do that did they, they said hello teen girls come and get your kit off behind flimsy curtains, oh hello chaps in you go..

It's weird tbh. Why are we having to pretend dodgy men aren't all over the place and when they are, at the first sign of iffiness they are always immediately reported, removed, reprimanded etc etc.

I know. I went in a Primark and was sniggered at for suggesting the changing areas should be male or female.

But anyone who knows me does... 😈

But a lot of people aren’t even aware!

This is the way of many High street store changing rooms I’m afraid. Mixed sex and privacy not guarantees. Even bra shops don’t necessarily guarantee single sex facilities.

If that's their thinking (it's sounds right) zampa, I guarantee it won't work in Croydon. Every time I went in that branch, the queue for returns was almost as long as for sales!

Going to original post, what's the strength of these magnets? Are they some sort of sex sorting magnets? Sounds so safe

@Zampa that's very likely what they are thinking!

Could well be.

I wonder if it's deliberate?

Do they want us to try stuff on or just buy it and because it's cheap, even if it's not right, you don't bother taking it back because it's more hassle than it's worth?

Well, serves them right for allowing themselves to be Stonewalled, really. Maybe a large financial slap on the wrist will help them reassess their priorities. I'll save my sympathy for their female customers.