Woman's Hour Jo Swinson Now - 6th Dec

Just listened to it. Interesting that she can talk about sexism so easily in answer to a different question, having glid over the question about the gender pay gap....

No one asked her how to define sexism without the use of the concept of sex.
How could she differentiate between transphobia and sexism?

No one will ever know.

Missed it, how did she do? Any better now she's had a little time to think? no chance

Just had a message pop up on my news feed. Jo Swindon answering question on BBC news channel now. On my mobile can't link

Great interview by EB. Agree with those who say she is one of the best interviewers the BBC have at the moment. Calm and forensic.

I have never even come close to voting lib dem but hearing how useless and unthinking JS is on this is a revelation. Lib dems in my view are dangerous. Few core beliefs. Easily influenced/infiltrated. Likely coalition partners. If they go out to bat so strongly on GRA reform it is likely to be in the negotiations for any future coalition or confidence and supply arrangement.

Great interview from Emma and I’ve written into Women’s Hour to say so.

I was secretly listening in work yesterday.
What a masterpiece in interviewing by Emma Barnett.
Showed Swindon for the fool she is.
I am not a CIS woman, I am a woman.
More of this please BBC

I have heard that grassroots Scottish women's groups have been targeting Swinson's constituency, aiming to raise awareness of what SelfID means for women.

'Simple administrative change' my arse

If it's only a simple administrative change, why do any documents provide information on sex?

They are completely changing the way we record data, but nobody explains the reasons, except some guff about identities.

If they honestly think the government holds information on 'identities' we need to be told why and what these identities are.

I admire Eddie enormously, too endof.

It was only a comment on ability versus belief, I have no doubt that Eddie may well be better human than Jo, from what I know of both of them.

Maybe I’ll change it to her being feminism’s living illustration of the Dunning Kruger effect, but it’s not as snappy

Shows how little that spokesperson understands the NHS. If there is no diagnosis of gender dysphoria, then how can you offer treatment? It will be treated like aesthetic surgery and people will be expected to arrange it privately.

Who knows? At the moment there is pressure on GPs to prescribe hormones and hormone blockers because there is a waiting list for gender identity related services. I understood the quote above to mean that the Lib Dems feel that a GRC will speed up access to hormones and hormone blockers, because of course (they believe) a woman would receive cosmetic surgery to look more female. The stage where an individual receives counselling can be skipped if they have a GRC.

However, perhaps you are also right. In a world of feminine penises, lesbians with beards, and part-time women, hormones and surgery are just a cosmetic choice.

They have to choose from a sitting MP nobody4, so their selection pool is small. And might be smaller.

Chuka Ummuna? 😂

"So what? She's still pushing separatism."

Everyone has to choose different criteria depending on their views and their constituency.

My vote will very much be swayed by the fact that I live in a completely safe Tory seat where no serious candidates from other parties will stand.

If I lived in a swing seat I might vote differently.

I've finally had chance to listen. I don't think I've ever heard such an inept interview. My opinion of JS has plummeted and I thought it was rock bottom already. Surely she'll be replaced after the election.

Interesting, Nettie – so anyone who wants any kind of NHS treatment or therapy for gender-related issues either has to go through the 'dehumanising' process that Jo Swinson has derided to get their dysphoria diagnosis or goes straight to the private sector. And hello, Ferrings, now we see where you fit in.

This will mean that trans people will be able to transition and receive support from the NHS without a gender dysphoria diagnosis.

Eh? Does the NHS work differently in Scotland?

There was another SNP woman on WH recently, Deidre Brock, who said, 'so for us, the GRA act that - the draft bill that we are introducing early next year - that's about ensuring that all young people have access to support from a trusted adult.'

They seem to be cramming rather a lot into a bill which is supposed to be about how to change the sex on your birth certificate.

In both my consultation responses I said the proposals were not so much reform as repurposing the act, but that was just to do with how obsolete it was now and how self-ID would open it up to an entirely different group of people for different purposes. This is off-the-scale repurposing!

'Simple administrative change' my arse

Brief update:
Spoke to Amy Callaghan on the doorstep. She does not support the word "cis"

Ferrings donations go back to 2013, actually. That was before Stonewall took on the T officially, but some years after TRAs and Queer activists had already got their feet under Stonewall's table and were influencing policy.

Did it all just happen organically, or can we find who was quietly organising and planning in the way that Denton's have recommended.

Finally got the BBC Sounds app to work. My god, it's not just the self-ID stuff, the whole interview is a car crash! I wouldn't elect that woman to the local Women's Institute, never mind to Parliament.

This will mean that trans people will be able to transition and receive support from the NHS without a gender dysphoria diagnosis.

Interesting quote Merrymouse. Shows how little that spokesperson understands the NHS. If there is no diagnosis of gender dysphoria, then how can you offer treatment? It will be treated like aesthetic surgery and people will be expected to arrange it privately.

Ferring donations to Lib Dems

I can understand why a company like Ferring would support the Lib Dems because of Brexit Policy

But their large donations to the Lib Dems go back to 2014, well before Brexit was an issue.

The point is that reforming the GRA is a devolved issue- and there is nothing that says that you have to vote for the same party in the Westminster and Scottish elections

That is a very good point. The Lib Dems have no chance of being in government (save possibly for some nightmare scenario of propping up a Labour minority government). If like me, it's anyone apart from SNP, voting Lib Dem in a Westminster election does nothing except keeps the SNP numbers down.

If "gender critical" is your big thing it's the SNP at Holyrood who are pushing that and who can carry it though via Scottish only legislation in Holyrood.

I saw the film of Eddie the Eagle's life story and I think the comparison with Jo Swinson is unfair tbh. He was very courageous in the face of awful bullying and discrimination and in the end won the respect of the people who bullied him.
Jo Swinson doesn't have those qualities.

It's the party that contains Joanna Cherry

So what? She's still pushing separatism.

Genius SophoclesTheFox . Jo Swinson as the Eddie the Eagle of Feminism