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“Folx” Please tell me this is a joke/trolling

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rodgmum · 05/12/2019 21:45

Someone on Emily Maitlis’ twitter thread is now talking about “folx” instead of folk as a respectful way to include all identities. Someone please tell me it was originally a typo and this tweeter is taking the piss. Please?????

“Folx” Please tell me this is a joke/trolling
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TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 08/12/2019 08:23

I prefer Latin yes I’m just saying I wouldn’t put Latinx in the same category as the ludicrous and offensive “womxn”

But as a primarily English speaker, I just don't think it's something we can say is fine. It simply makes no sense in Spanish - no more sense than womxn. This is why I group them together as ridiculous ideas. It's like saying 'la casx' instead of 'la casa' - it's just not a word. Gendered (in the gramatical sense) words are just as different as women/men, so making it latinx, rather than latino/latina is just as nonsensical.

HermioneMakepeace · 08/12/2019 08:19

I miss the 80s, much simpler times.

Me too. And I think we should bring back Spare Rib. Although I'm probably one of few people on here who remember it Grin.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 08/12/2019 08:05

Thank god for the letter X, otherwise how would we know who were the goodies on twatter.

Besidesthepoint · 08/12/2019 08:01

I can never be woke, I just can't keep up and don't understand half of it. I even find it exhausting to read tbh. I miss the 80s, much simpler times.

HermioneMakepeace · 08/12/2019 07:51

Can we please go back to 'wimmin'?

SophoclesTheFox · 08/12/2019 07:26

Ah, there are just so many ways to say “I am considerably woker than yowwww” these days.

Makes it easy to spot a wanxer at fifty paces mind yox Grin

Lamahaha · 08/12/2019 07:19

For the record, none of the black or Asian women I know in the real world like 'women of colour' either, or BAME for that matter. But they're old like me (ie over 40) so probably don't count.

I absolutely hate it, and I am one. And I'm old too.

In my country, "coloured" is/was not a pejorative; it used to be a quite ordinary everyday word meaning "mixed race" or "brown skinned" . Until America got hold of it and deemed it taboo.

I don't really understand why "of colour" is not racist, but "coloured" is. I rather like the word, it conjures up pretty rainbows. But of course, even rainbows have been ruined now.

HermioneMakepeace · 08/12/2019 04:34

But why the ‘x’? I don’t understand. And I thought ‘folk’ was the most inclusive of words because it meant, well, everyone and anyone.

NumbersStation · 07/12/2019 00:36

Well Napoleon will be welcomed with open arms into M&S changing rooms
And before you know it will be squeezing his trotters into tights.

And M&S will be advertising a whole other type of pulled pork.

Creepster · 06/12/2019 23:21

People who have read Animal Farm will recognize this for what it is immediately.
Obedience training, just like the pronoun requirements.

“Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide, and slavery - have resulted not from disobedience, but from obedience.”
― Howard Zinn

www.peacefulparent.com/pitfalls-obedience-training/

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 23:07

Sigh. And of course there's this.

*Within our community, there are Afro-Latinx who pretend black when it is convenient and then try to blend right back into anti-blackness when it is not."

RiddleyW · 06/12/2019 23:00

It's interesting that I haven't seen anyone trying to x the terms Afro Latina or Afro Latino, which are just as clearly sexed as Latino in general.

www.theroot.com/so-you-re-afro-latinx-now-what-1821861287/amp

Lumene · 06/12/2019 22:38

I don’t get it. Is it to be inclusive of those who can’t spell?

FlamingoAndJohn · 06/12/2019 22:35

Does this mean we are going to bring back aviatrix to mean a female pilot?

Anyway, folk is ungendered, surely.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 22:31

It's interesting that I haven't seen anyone trying to x the terms Afro Latina or Afro Latino, which are just as clearly sexed as Latino in general.

FlyingOink · 06/12/2019 22:26

I prefer Latin yes I’m just saying I wouldn’t put Latinx in the same category as the ludicrous and offensive “womxn”
I think they're both awful. "Latino" is only the default in the US.
There's a strong anti-Mexican sentiment in the US and a colourism within Latin communities that puts indigenous people and black people at the bottom.
We don't see much of that debate here because we don't have the same demographics, in the UK we are aware of the cultural differences between West Indians and West Africans whereas in the US it might be between a white Cuban and a Guatemalan refugee. Latinx doesn't cover any of that, it in itself is lazy shorthand.

MIdgebabe · 06/12/2019 21:53

I work in an environment with people from all over the place , and folk / folks is pretty normal, especially in a "get real/ be down to earth context

RiddleyW · 06/12/2019 21:50

I prefer Latin yes I’m just saying I wouldn’t put Latinx in the same category as the ludicrous and offensive “womxn”

FlyingOink · 06/12/2019 20:33

Latinx is a bit different, I can see the rationale there - Latino as the default actually does exclude women
Use the word Latin?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/12/2019 19:21

I'm also Scottish and have never said folks in my life.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/12/2019 19:17

I'm Scottish but haven't lived in Scotland for half a century, so I'd feel it was pretentious to use folks.

VMisaMarshmallow · 06/12/2019 18:54

RiddleyW I thought that previously, but decided to opt for Latina as generally if I used it I’d be likely to be talking to/about women, and I figure any chance to counter the use of male terms being used as covering both isn’t a bad thing. But I’m also that annoying mother loudly telling my girls to watch for the green woman when waiting at crossings, so maybe I’m just a cox.

VMisaMarshmallow · 06/12/2019 18:48

Folk or folks is common in Scotland. Moaning about that word makes people seem snobbish ....

I also keep thinking of Queer as Folk and can imagine the responses of the lgb characters and the f-ing, c-ing, t-ing and bastards that would be coming from them if they were expected to accept and celebrate folx

Haworthia · 06/12/2019 18:37

I hate the proliferation of “folk”. Always preceded by “trans and non-binary”. Why is “people” not enough? Is it because “folk” is supposed to sound more... huggy and happy clappy and rainbow?

Anyway... thanks, I hate it.

NumbersStation · 06/12/2019 18:32

Sorry the second example should have been womxn watch me conform obviously.

Perhaps all these do gooders need to start their pish with autocorrect before they start foisting their opinions on ordinary people.

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