Why aren't you all over James Haskell?

I’m glad someone knows who he is, Butter!

James Haskell played Rugby for England in a wing forward back row, in number 8 position. He came on against Wales in the 67th minute in a 6 Nations match in 2013.
This wasn't his finest moment. We won 30 points to 3, apart from that I believe he's had a few good games.
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This post has as much to do with feminism as the op.

It's not about one man per se or about how people like to identify, how they dress or how much plastic surgery they have, it is about laws and rules that put women at more than normal risk.

If people would just write OBEY ME it would be so much more efficient. No more effective than the current version but they'd save themselves some typing.

and I'm still bewildered why this thread exists

I know I know, that's ones easy. People like telling women what to do and what they should think.

I feel like maybe we need to have a conversation about what a producer is, or for that matter what a script is.

FWR is not the place for discussing how mean some fabricated version of a famous person is portrayed

Well, quite. D list celebs spouting producer-led narratives while begging for votes. And we're supposed to take what's said seriously and discuss it?

And no, it's not cultural snobbery. Reality TV is the new religion and opiate of the people.

I'd rather ignore it (unless it's Strictly because nobody's perfect, even me, and I don't fucking post about it on feminist fora) thanks.

I must say I know nothing about Kardashians and only discovered the James person a couple of days ago, a rugby player, and I know little about him but he seems OK.

I for one intend to remain ignorant of reality TV in general and anything to do with the Kardashians in particular. One might even say that I cherish my ignorance in this case. Why is OP demanding that I pay attention to shitty TV?

Why is a low rent TV reality show that I've never watched in my life inciting dozens of threads on a feminist forum? If it's not Jenner, it's this idiot.

^This

I try to escape the world's obsession with reality TV and "famous people" by reading and interacting on FWR and other real environments. IDGAF what some third-rate celebrity or any celebrity says/does as they aren't in touch with reality due to living as a famous person.

I get it I get it some people like this reality TV stuff but FWR is not the place for discussing how mean some fabricated version of a famous person is portrayed. These celebrities aren't doing anything to help women or children with their vacuous scripted plots.

These threads are total facepalms.

I've just spent 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back, finding out who this person is, and I'm still bewildered why this thread exists.

Never heard of these people! Are they off the telly?
I put our telly outside when they turned off the Granada analogue signal about 10 years ago.

Why don’t you start a proper thread about them with links/background and start the discussion off, OP?

I think you are missing the obvious, which is that man in prison are more likely to say they are trans to get special treatment, not that transpeople are more likely to be sex offenders!

A transwoman is someone who says they have a female gender identity. That is it. It's about the words they say out loud. There is no diagnosis, no verification, no identification.

When there is no definition of being trans, you cannot possibly say people are pretending in order to access women.

Yes, he. As it's a thursday.

Mondays, Wednesday and Friday are female pronoun days.

Educate yourself, do better.

If a male says he is a woman, then he is a woman. End of. No debate.

. You see what you wrote there?

He.

Ah! I thank you, @Feminazgul, for reminding me of my naturally subordinate position in life!

If a male says he is a woman, then he is a woman. End of. No debate.

To even consider they may be lying to gain advantage is transphobic and literal violence.

It never happens anyway so I dont know it keeps getting brought up.

Its certainly a new twist on 'you should be more nice'.
Is that to me?
Can you not read??
I give up.

Its certainly a new twist on 'you should be more nice'.

I hold this line;
Women's spaces and services are for women.
Sometimes they are for very specific groups of women, such as BAME women, or disabled women. You don't see the rest of us complaining about discrimination or trying to force our way in.

What a bizarre thread.

Yes of course men in prison are going to lie if they get preferential treatment! That's what I said!
And whoever asked "how can you tell the difference between transwomen and men lying to get into women's prisons", well, I'm sure prison staff aren't daft, and individually they know full well who is genuine and who isn't, but obviously men shouldn't be in women's prisons at all.
Which is NOT the same thing as saying
One of the reasons for the heightened concern is the higher incidence of sex crimes committed by "transwomen" compared to the male prison population.
That makes it sound very much like tw commit more sex crimes than men. Well, that isn't a reason for MY concern because I doubt it's true. I think what is much more likely is that claiming trans status in the prison system confers some priveledge on the inmate, and thats why there are more "tw" in the prison population.

I think you are missing the obvious, which is that man in prison are more likely to say they are trans to get special treatment, not that transpeople are more likely to be sex offenders!

Wait, so men do lie about being trans to get preferential treatment? I thought the whole point about self ID is that if you say you are a woman, you are a woman?

So, OP, have you set up a campaign to do whatever it is that you think needs to be done about this man yet? You haven't, because you assumed that you could order other women to do it for you? Tut tut, etc.

It's a Whaddaboudda thread!

OP you have decided which males are a real threat to feminism. How clever of you. How did you work that out?

Because it's such a novelty when new posters rock up to tell this board we're feministing wrong. Literally never happens...