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131 replies

bellabelly · 04/12/2019 23:04

Emily Maitliss grilling Sarah Wollaston (LD) about gender self-id. Good!

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Ereshkigal · 05/12/2019 00:02

Has EM been called a TERF yet at all for the Tavi interview?

bellabelly · 04/12/2019 23:57

@OvaHere - I thought that too! The TRAs will be denoucing her as a terf after that, you mark my words! @PJsatMidday - I have been considering voting Lib Dem as the tactical voting sites have told me that's my best chance of helping to unseat our tory mp. But I can't vote for this nonsense. Have just seen on twitter Jo Swinson's very clear tweets about gender recognition and self id - fuck that!

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xxyzz · 04/12/2019 23:56

Oh, how disappointing. Sarah Wollaston is usually very good in other areas.

I assume she is reciting the script she's been told to, but yes, disappointing for a doctor to not understand this better.

Angryresister · 04/12/2019 23:53

Second time today for the Lib Dem on this, managed to regurgitate the same rubbish while completely ignoring actual women. Emily Maitliss not quite as incisive as in the interview with the psychiatrist from the Tavi the other day but did well bringing it back to women. How can the good doctor not know that very few of these born in the wrong body types actually change anything, and that even if they did , it would still not mean they magically become women. I would have voted for Lib Dem’s on Brexit issue but no way because of this.

OvaHere · 04/12/2019 23:52

I did have to laugh at Sarah trying to say that self declaration is perfectly okay and nothing to worry about but in the next breath that anyone who looks male would obviously make women uncomfortable in an intimate setting.

Sarah, you can't square that circle no matter how much you bluster.

arethereanyusernamesleftatall · 04/12/2019 23:49

If we're fangirling, and especially if we're writing, it's perhaps worth mentioning that it's Maitlis

Blush

You're right, of course. OK, so it's:

Emily Maitlis
c/o BBC Newsnight,
Zone D, 3rd Floor,
BBC Broadcasting House,
Portland Place,
London,
W1A 1AA.

NotAssigned · 04/12/2019 23:45

If we're fangirling, and especially if we're writing, it's perhaps worth mentioning that it's Maitlis

OvaHere · 04/12/2019 23:43

Wow. What a load of tosh from Sarah Wollaston. She really has no idea what she's blathering on about. Utterly appalling for a patron of Rape Crisis and a medical Dr.

Emily was brilliant once again

arethereanyusernamesleftatall · 04/12/2019 23:42

I'm going to send a card to Emily Maitless to thank her for challenging politicians on self ID, this isn't the first time she's brought it up recently.

Does anyone want to join me? I think we can write to her at:

Emily Maitless
c/o BBC Newsnight,
Zone D, 3rd Floor,
BBC Broadcasting House,
Portland Place,
London,
W1A 1AA.

Melroses · 04/12/2019 23:41

I actually really hope the Lib Dems lose all their seats and just disappear from Uk politics

The polls don't look good for them so far. They seem to have a "vote for no Brexit and we will throw in a whole pile of pants you didn't want" policy.

Melroses · 04/12/2019 23:39

Twitter #newsnight seems to be full of gay men who know more about women's spaces than women Hmm Very quick off the mark with their 'terf' accusations.

Eye opening.

PJsatMidday · 04/12/2019 23:37

Her floundering about the "assignment at birth" bollocks and whether she, as a medical doctor, believes this concept, was pretty funny. Her failure to understand that the whole point of self ID is that nobody has to "fully transition" was just pathetic. She clearly knows nothing about what we are dealing with here.

I actually really hope the Lib Dems lose all their seats and just disappear from Uk politics. They have done nothing for this country. If it wasn't for those duplicitous bastards getting into bed with Cameron and giving that charlatan a "respectable" facade, we wouldn't be in the complete shit storm we are in now.

AnyFucker · 04/12/2019 23:34

Emily looks like a blonde Claudia Winkleman.

Slight derail. As you were.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2019 23:34

When is someone going to address how suggesting someone is born in the wrong body is feeding dysphoria in a whole where body image is a huge deal due to distorted ideas self image coming from social media usage?

When is someone going to challenge the Lib Dems (and Stonewall) about how the Stonewall definition of homosexual being based on gender identity is intrinsically homophobic?

birdsdestiny · 04/12/2019 23:30

She was great. She is fighting her corner at the bbc. Wollaston didnt even believe what she was saying. It was the pre approved script.

ThePurported · 04/12/2019 23:28

The Lib Dems were handed an opportunity on a plate to address women's concerns, and they sent Dr Sarah Wollaston to drone on about 'born in the wrong body'?
She talked about men who 'haven't yet fully physically transitioned'. Does she think that trans means genital surgery? How quaint.
She is going to have a hell of a shock when she realises what the trans umbrella encompasses.

arethereanyusernamesleftatall · 04/12/2019 23:28

Emily Maitless is brilliant!

If anyone missed it, you can still listen live here and rewind to 11pm if you're on a computer, I think:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbctwo

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 04/12/2019 23:28

Me too RedToothBrush - Matliss for PM I say!

TinselAngel · 04/12/2019 23:28

I too have a slight Maitliss crush.

RedToothBrush · 04/12/2019 23:24

I am becoming a Matliss fan girl.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 04/12/2019 23:18

I've been peak handmaidened again. Emily was sharp and to the point though. Methinks the BBC are beginning to read the room on this issue.

PJsatMidday · 04/12/2019 23:13

That's me paraphrasing Wollaston, because that's pretty much all she had to say. All she cares about is their discomfort. Fuck the discomfort of women and girls.

Oooooooooooooooooooh · 04/12/2019 23:13

The libdem woman was absolutely rubbish. Just spouting incoherent nonsense. And she’s a doctor?????

AnyFucker · 04/12/2019 23:13

Loving your work, Emily

Trewser · 04/12/2019 23:13

Lib Dems - enjoy your erasure.