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The MOODY PROBLEM

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 04/12/2019 00:56

"Today, @UniOfYork
responded to my SAR request. There are SEVENTY PAGES of discussion between Prof. Alan Thomas and admin/pr/legal/academics concerning the MOODY PROBLEM.
Highlights include their response to Ms Stephanie Hayden's (LLB. Hons) & Adrian Harrop's complaint

mobile.twitter.com/drlouisejmoody/status/1201950391199510528

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Angryresister · 04/12/2019 19:21

Works for me on tablet. Given there is a suggestion that Louise shouldn’t be using a job title conferred by the university, I suggest she just tells them that she identifies as a holder of said post, as it is less deceptive than the desire of men to declare themselves as women.

Sexnotgender · 04/12/2019 19:15

Works for me. There goes my Wednesday evening Grin

Fuuuucking hell Louise, what is wrong with these people Shock what a big steaming pile of shite. If you’re ever in Scotland I’d love to buy you a drink Smile

BovaryX · 04/12/2019 19:15

That's nothing new to me Bovary - you wouldn't believe just how obsessive some individuals are, even to the point of screenshotting me 'liking' tweets. It is really very odd, but I am happy to stand by everything I say :-]

I actually think they must have a dedicated internet division that spends all day every day trawling through social media hunting for ammunition against women. We really are living in extraordinary times. I think the media has been pulling a Rip Van Winkle during much of this, but The Telegraph, Spectator seem to be quite wide awake now after the recent court cases.

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 19:09

That's nothing new to me Bovary - you wouldn't believe just how obsessive some individuals are, even to the point of screenshotting me 'liking' tweets. It is really very odd, but I am happy to stand by everything I say :-]

BovaryX · 04/12/2019 18:55

Dr. Louise Moody, just take care with anything remotely sensitive you post here because this forum has been repeatedly targeted by those who trawl social media looking for ammunition to torpedo women who have dissenting opinions.

theflushedzebra · 04/12/2019 18:46

Works for me Louise Smile

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 18:45

On the subject of holes, that is EXTREMELY generous, but absolutely not (or at least not until well into the new year once I understand where I'm at with the case I CANNOT SPEAK ABOUT). Things are happening, but slowly, and it's really only the York stuff that I'm happy to be my usual gobby self about at the moment!

DubiousGoals · 04/12/2019 18:40

It works (for me, anyway)

Thank you DrLouiseJMoody

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 18:29

For those who have absolutely nothing better to do with their Weds evening, please lemme know if this works!

drive.google.com/open?id=1Ss-sxDabMXrlHAc-5kJ-1dSSS0epZOPw

BovaryX · 04/12/2019 18:25

But I do owe it to myself to know that I at least tried to stand up in the middle of the upside fucking down and call this out.

Dr. Louise Moody, I hope that at some point in the future, when the history of this sinister period is written, people will wonder how freedom of speech and thought could come under such relentless, intimidating attack, whilst those in power colluded and encouraged it. There will be individuals whose actions are viewed as courageous and principled and others whose actions will be seen as craven, incomprehensible. Or worse. The fact that you are in this situation is an indictment of the current climate. But your response to it is a testament to your character and your courage. How did we get so far down the rabbit hole?

Angryresister · 04/12/2019 18:18

I wish there was more the rest of us could do. I am appalled that so called intelligent people can hide behind this ideology and use it to and bully non believers. There need to take a hard look at their actions and stand up and be counted before more women are damaged. We are on you side Louise.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 04/12/2019 17:51

When they said they had a reputation to uphold, exactly what sort of reputation are they seeking to uphold?

littlbrowndog · 04/12/2019 17:36

Yeah Louise

Weird that isn’t it

Could it be because he is a man ?

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 17:32

Yes, it does seem that York are supportive of a convicted rapist returning to academia than they are someone who priortizes biological reality over nebulous feelings inside the head.

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 17:30

Continue to be overwhelmed - in the best possible way - by all you lovely, lovely people!

Yes, I do feel that I've been betrayed in some rather surprising ways. No good will come of naming people in this saga; but it is certainly one of those situations where you find out who really has your back and who else is busy lying in order to advance their careers. There are one or two who have removed and blocked me on all social media because of this (this after we've gone for e.g. drinks, conferences together etc) and I cannot regard them as anything other than cowards who have closed ranks rather than stood up for what is right; and then there has been support from some very unexpected quarters. I am told: be quiet! But why should I be, really? I owe no-one anything. But I do owe it to myself to know that I at least tried to stand up in the middle of the upside fucking down and call this out.

EwwSprouts · 04/12/2019 17:29

York academics and protecting their reputation... The rapist "McKeown’s barrister Julian Goode handed references from York academics with doctorates, saying: “They support the defendant returning to the university post release."
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Louise, I admire your integrity & tenacity.

theflushedzebra · 04/12/2019 17:23

Solidarity Louise Wine

Sorry you have to deal with this crap - shocking how quickly they'll throw women under the bus - in order to placate a couple of dubious twitter keyboard warriors!

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 04/12/2019 16:12

Dr. Louise, you are fantastic.
It must be so hard to go up against all of this. You must feel so betrayed that people are agreeing with you in person and then doing this to you.
Are there some holes in need of digging?

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 04/12/2019 15:08

@DrLouiseJMoody: I'm sorry you've been put in this position and are having to go to these lengths to expose their behaviour and fight against it. I know this kind of climate only too well. Is there any university out there that isn't up to its neck in Allies: a concept that only very recently I'd have been proud to embrace?

If that's the kind of thing a senior colleague is posting on Twitter, he's extremely unprofessional, and only recently would have been hauled over the coals for damaging his university's reputation. Misogyny and homophobia would not too long ago have renedered any academic persona non grata: now, it seems to have been completely legitimized along with the aggression and threats emanating from a particularly vocal body of activists. I can't recall a more rapid about-face in attitudes toward women in my lifetime. It scares the hell out of me.

Kudos for standing up and fighting against this mire.

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 14:50

*not go up against - MN really needs an edit post option!

DrLouiseJMoody · 04/12/2019 14:49

You are all MUCH too kind! Like most all of us, I just wander around utterly perplexed about finding ourselves in the upside down. It's not like my views are new: I mean, I've been out since 1997 when Stonewall knew what lesbians were; but now, my sexuality - which I'd considered about as relevant to my being as my toothpaste preference in the morning for years - suddenly became transphobic because a generation of ill-informed students consistently confuse inclusiveness with including EVERYONE, and in turn, I became a SAFEGUARDING RISK.

And I'm supposed to be quiet and not hit up against a Professor with an international reputation? No. I don't think so. See the attached for how he talks about feminists (I've only redacted his FB name as I don't want him deluged!).

The MOODY PROBLEM
Jux · 04/12/2019 14:41

Thank you Dr Moody. You are a brave champion; we all owe you a debt.

popehilarious · 04/12/2019 14:35

Looking forward to reading the rest of this.

BovaryX · 04/12/2019 14:25

Dr.Louise Moody,
I watched a video of your superb speech at WPUK, it is shocking what has happened to you and it is an indictment of the current oppressive climate. It takes real courage and integrity to do what you’re doing. Academic freedom should be championed in universities. But it takes a real champion to stand up for it when it’s facing such a existential threat. Wishing you the very best