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Research shows gender dysphoria caused by trauma, which should be treated rather than entrenched through transitioning

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stumbledin · 03/12/2019 14:11

I've sort of simplified the research that has just been published, but it seems to be saying what has been obvious to just about everybody.

ie that disphoria is a response to "trauma" (ie not just an actual incident but the difficulties many adolescents experience). So it is completely wrong to confirm that disphoria by confirming it through medical treatment. Rather than the source of the trauma needs to be found and resolved.

And there is no such thing as the brain having a sex.

Have seen a number of news paper reports which all say slightly different things. Here is one sundayherald.org/science/study-gender-dysphoria-brain-long-missed-26664026

And I think this is the actual research article www.scimex.org/newsfeed/is-your-gender-all-in-your-head

The worry is of course that even though it is the conclusion of a researcher (ie not just "terfs" being reactionary) so many people have invested in the myths about gender that I suspect it will be ignored.

Its not just the big pharma companies who are making millions, but all those governments, schools, companies and charities, who wont want to admit that they have been taken in.

How do we reverse the tide?

Even articles exposing how cultish the campaign has been, working under the radar, trying to capture young people, haven't really make that much impact. Maybe in 20 or 30 years there will be a Panorama exposé - but think of the damage in the mean time.

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Ereshkigal · 03/12/2019 15:53

Also placemarking to read study later.

Kantastic · 03/12/2019 15:34

The process of discrediting the researcher by any means necessary has already begun. I hope the poor sod had some idea what he was letting himself in for and is prepared for it.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 03/12/2019 15:28

Finally! Back later to read fully

stillathing · 03/12/2019 15:26

I suppose its whether our young people are being effectively 'traumatised' by entrenched gender stereotyping and misogyny

I think this is plausible. For girls the scrutiny, early sexualisation, the way in which your breasts appear to make you public property, along with the implicit threat of violence for disobedience. For all that one might (rightly) suppose it is easier to be a boy, there is far less personality /gender expression allowed in younger boys than in younger girls. The smallest deviation gets a boy comments designed to bring him back to within an acceptable range of "normal'. And that might be just from well meaning friends and adults.

Trauma involves lack of agency and I think because girls and boys are children this fits. And more than that, the pressures to conform to stereotypes (and be rejected if they don't?) come from within their homes and schools, the environments that are supposed to be safe and nurturing. So it's a bit like the trauma of growing up with emotional abuse. It can be difficult for an affected individual to see objectively because they have no other experience of love. Hurt and anger that should be directed at the persecutor is instead directed at the self.

HorseWithNoYawnsToGive · 03/12/2019 15:21

At last!

BickerinBrattle · 03/12/2019 15:08

This doesn’t surprise me at all. Gender identity “confusion” is one of the symptoms of borderline personality disorder, and feminists argue that disorder itself is often actually a trauma response.

Goosefoot · 03/12/2019 14:36

I think even for young people who are pretty average in their experiences, the changes of adolescence can be very difficult to integrate. Many teenagers are trying to integrate all kinds of things, isn't that what is behind so much of the experimentation with clothes, personas, and so on? All of which we consider normal for most teens. Some personalities also just seem to have an easier time than others.

I think most people believe this and the only thing that has really convinced them otherwise with trans stuff is what seems to be the scientific and medical establishment backing.

NeurotrashWarrior · 03/12/2019 14:34

The abstract makes an awful lot of sense especially in regards to similar issues people with autism struggle with.

NeurotrashWarrior · 03/12/2019 14:32

Will read later.

I suppose its whether our young people are being effectively 'traumatised' by entrenched gender stereotyping and misogyny.

They way young girls who develop breasts early are treated I'm not surprised it drives many to bind.

pemberlyshades · 03/12/2019 14:29

Place marking so I can read after work- sounds promising

BarbaraStrozzi · 03/12/2019 14:27

Placemarking so I can have a read later when I have time.

OldCrone · 03/12/2019 14:21

This is a link to the full article - published in an open access journal.
www.eneuro.org/content/eneuro/early/2019/12/02/ENEURO.0183-19.2019.full.pdf