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Blaming women for men's suicide

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Gingerkittykat · 01/12/2019 16:35

Ex blamed for causing mean's suicide.

I'm so angry at this article, and not just because I am arguing with a local MRA about it. The man was obviously in a bad place and let down badly by mental health services but lets blame the woman because that is easier.

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FoamingAtTheUterus · 02/12/2019 06:59

Have some bloody decency, there's a time and a place for debate and this isn't it.

My friend was actually mutual friends with this couple and the article is accurate.

Sometimes women stop their children seeing their dads for good reason because there are some awful ones out there and sometimes we have children being used as weapons. It does happen. And complete strangers who don't know a thing about the history shouldn't be hawking this poor guy over the internet.

PermanentTemporary · 02/12/2019 06:52

I've been blamed for my husband's suicide by his brother. It is a truly soul crushing experience.

It is very, very hard for everyone to fight through the misery that any suicide induces. The girlfriend in this story is clearly feeling intense emotions of all sorts and is perhaps lashing out. It would really be helpful if the newspaper didn't feed into that.

I dont know if these blame spirals happen more often when a man takes his own life or a woman does.

traceyracer · 02/12/2019 06:12

Men are more violent, that's why.

Antigonads · 02/12/2019 05:57

A fb friend posted this the other day. She posts a lot about male suicide so obviously has some history but I thought this was a bit off.

Blaming women for men's suicide
Kantastic · 02/12/2019 05:47

Inferring your meaning, so please tell me if I've misunderstood.

Your friend's suicide note was proof that your friend wanted other people to blame a specific woman for his suicide. It was not proof that a woman was to blame for his suicide.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 02/12/2019 05:35

Sometimes it is the case though - my friends suicide note was proof of that.

coatlessinspokane · 02/12/2019 05:19

God that’s awful. The headline couldn’t be clearer. It’s inflammatory to say the least and imagine the effect on the kids’ relationship with their mum when they google it in the future.

It’s interesting to note that his current girlfriend had had an argument with him prior to his suicide and that it was her that pointed the finger to his ex.

Kantastic · 02/12/2019 05:10

That seems worthy of an IPSO complaint honestly, though I'm sure it's the last thing that poor woman needs at this point with the father of her children suddenly dead. It's absolutely appalling.

People are very ready to blame women for male suicide (and homicide) even when the press don't cue them up for it - you even see people blaming the girls who turned down a school shooter for the shooting spree. Or for another example, Ariana Grande came in for considerable hate and harassment when her ex was found dead of an overdose.

In this situation an actual newspaper article is uncritically reporting claims that a man killed himself because his mean ex-wife (the mean ex-wife! she's been typecast as a misogynist hate figure!) wouldn't let him see his children - on Christmas! She's being set up to be hated. She's at serious risk of targeted harassment from internet misogynists and even if she escapes that she may receive vitriol offline from people who read the article.

Can anyone complain to IPSO or do you have to be the person the article is about? Do they regulate the Metro?

jay55 · 02/12/2019 04:34

Terrible things for the kids to read when they look up their dad, their mum being blamed.

FWRLurker · 02/12/2019 04:00

Yeah headline is awful.

Being the nuclear family of a seriously depressed person is incredibly high stress. There’s a reason they broke up. Maintaining boundaries is important. Understandable GF is looking for someone besides him to blame but hopefully thorough therapy she’ll learn it was his choice and no one else’s and apologize to ex wife.

Gingerkittykat · 02/12/2019 03:54

Does the same ever happen in reverse? Is a female suicide ever blamed on a man in the same way?

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Coyoacan · 02/12/2019 03:44

Whao, that is disgusting.

Fraggling · 01/12/2019 19:50

This is the headline though

'Dad, 36, killed himself ‘when ex-wife wouldn’t let him see kids for Christmas’

Most people will take that at face value, at a glance, and move on.

There has been a lot of work to try to stop the press doing this sort of thing, it's like eg

'Woman killed because she was 'seeing other men' '

The speech marks are there but most people take it at face value.

Papers should be more careful with this stuff.

In this case when you read it, he had major mental health issues and had argued with his girlfriend, it's her who says it's due to the ex though, and that is the headline.

Real story is man with serious mental health issues commits suicide but that's not so interesting from a press perspective.

I'm with you op.

MorrisZapp · 01/12/2019 16:37

It's his girlfriend and family who said his problems were worsened by his ex, as heard at the inquest. I'm not sure the article 'blames a woman'.

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