Prisoner denied GRS - court case.

Maybe women need to start stepping up and saying are you having a laugh

Women dont though. Because we are told...

...dont like to make a fuss

...there are people worse off so accept that they are the priority

...boobs dont matter, be grateful you're still alive!

And so on.

After the disastrous failed group therapy experiment on rehabilitating convicted sex offenders actually resulted in increased recidivism (they all used the sessions to give each other ideas), the Home Office decided on another fabulous scheme - anti-androgens. Result? Between a third and a half decided to "transition" - so creating a larger queue of XY persons clamouring for transfer to the female estate.

That's absolutely shocking. Call me cynical, but I really struggle to believe that the anti-androgens miraculously brought out the 'authentic self' of these sex offenders.

Mastectomies is another one that I am surprised doesn't get prioritised for funding.
Maybe women need to start stepping up and saying are you having a laugh. How comes the trans person takes priority? If it's about being born in the wrong body and distressing so viewed as a health condition, it still shouldn't be prioritised before a bio woman who lost one/both to cancer.

I’m surprised your not actually pressing for all paedophiles to be put on testosterone blockers as part of their punishment.

Thats your bias talking. You really need to talk with us more and lecture less.

Many of the women here are better informed than to think that removing sexual function removes the desire to offend. Offenders are often to achieve an erection, in which case they resort to using objects, which include bottles and knives.

Why are paedophile threads like catnip to AWAs?

You'd think shilling for child molesters would be something they'd prefer to avoid.

It's ridiculous that it's offered to begin with. There's surgery I want that will give me the body I should have. I needed a nose job after it was broken as a young teen and wasn't fixed properly. That along with a few other issues caused a lot of problems for me. Yet, I had to pay for the nose that I should have had, and resembled the one I was born with.

I now want a boob lift and a slight reduction, guess what I'm saving up to get the ones that I should have.

What other procedures does the NHS offer on a sexist basis?

I’m surprised your not actually pressing for all paedophiles to be put on testosterone blockers as part of their punishment.

Why do you insist on keeping up with these ludicrous attempted gotchas?

After the disastrous failed group therapy experiment on rehabilitating convicted sex offenders actually resulted in increased recidivism (they all used the sessions to give each other ideas), the Home Office decided on another fabulous scheme - anti-androgens. Result? Between a third and a half decided to "transition" - so creating a larger queue of XY persons clamouring for transfer to the female estate.

Try again. Or, perhaps, don't.

Women who have had mastectomies are having restrictions placed on reconstructive surgery and cant even get matching sized boobs.

Maybe they should sue too. But they wont, will they. Because of female conditioning and lack of entitlement.

what are you actually saying Bronners1978?

• that the convicted paedophile should be able to have publicly funded 'SRS'?

• that the convicted paedophile should be in a women's prison?

you're spraying non sequiteurs around, and I'm not actually too sure what your point is?

The prison issue really exposes the whole thing, doesn't it?
Men who have played reasonably nice can have their paraphilia catered to and get transferred to a women's prison.
And yes, naive to assume that GRS means genital surgery / 'sterilisation'. Isn't it usually about getting a pair of tits?

HRT does leave us sterile

This means you are unable to father children. It does not mean you are impotent. A rapist who is on HRT can still get an erection, and can still rape.

Surgery, is desired by the majority of those who transition

Yes, surgeries like breast implants and facial feminisation surgeries. When you isolate those who desire removal of their penis and testes, the numbers are much, much lower.

I really have no idea why the NHS is offering surgery to perfectly healthy bodies. What a total waste of money.

The majority of trans people don’t transition, of those that do, HRT does leave us sterile, it’s a side effect of the blockers (not oestrogen). Surgery, is desired by the majority of those who transition, however with long waiting times, a very small number of suitably trained surgeons and, for a few medical conditions that prevent us having it, means that some of us are unable to access it.

The numbers rise in places like the US where funding becomes an issue, not all insurers cover it and for those that do, the insurance system requires you to find 20% of the overall cost. Given the relatively low incomes, this is unaffordable for many over there.

Strange there was, and still is, massive tabloid and public outrage over women who 'game the system' to get breast implants or other cosmetic surgery on the NHS. And yet...

"Given that HRT, and surgery effectively sterilises the trans woman, something you’re all very much aware of. I’m surprised your not actually pressing for all paedophiles to be put on testosterone blockers as part of their punishment."

Why would anyone want to ensure trans women are sterilised? It's totally irrelevant. Sterilisation does not equal emasculation. Testosterone blockers for paedophiles? Nope. Surgery, yes. Castrate the bloody lot of them

HRT does not sterilise a transwoman, and the term Sex Reassignment Surgery is often used (in a deliberately confusing manner) to refer to things like jaw reshaping, shaving the Adam's apple, breast implants and brow reduction.

The majority of transwomen retain a fully functioning penis.

Autogynephilia (which falls under the massive Stonewall trans umbrella) is not a medical condition, and is a sexual fetish.

Physical or chemical castration isn't much of a barrier to violent predators.
Women are still violently beaten up, intimated, sexually assaulted with broken bottles or bars. The lack of an erect penis hasn't stopped men from finding ways to hurt women.

The best punishment is to keep sexual predators as far away from women and children as possible. Shifting them to women's prisons undermines this as I'm sure you know.

Being trans is no longer a medical condition though. It's transphobic to say so, remember?

Human rights, blah, blah, blah
What a totally sick situation, just put the POS in solitary confinement and forget about him.

Given that HRT, and surgery effectively sterilises the trans woman, something you’re all very much aware of. I’m surprised your not actually pressing for all paedophiles to be put on testosterone blockers as part of their punishment.

Regardless of a person's crimes in the UK denial of treatment for a medical condition is inappropriate.

WIBU in supporting the need for surgery in this individual as long as removal of the penis is the first stage in transitioning?

Report in the DM with figures from April/May this year re no of transgender inmates in prison.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7736313/More-half-prisons-England-hold-prisoners-identify-transgender.html

I've had a look but can't see the original report on the MOJ website

Is this GRS actually “breast implants”?

That was my first thought too. Which is more likely:

1. After using penis to abuse a child, biological male realises the prison system will indulge his autogynephilia fetish, and allow him to dress "as a woman" to excite himself sexually. He would quite like some free breast implants to facilitate this. He also sees a possible avenue for transfer to a women's prison where he can carry out further sexual abuse, and also intimidate and harass women. He has no intention of having his penis removed.

2. Convicted sex offender realises that he was actually born in the body, and needs reassignment surgery to alleviate his genuine distress.

MNHQ - I am pretty sure you have stated in the past that we do not need to perform ridiculous verbal gymnastics in order to not state the biological sex of a convicted sex offender, hence my (correct) use of male pronouns throughout.

Interesting that it is the Portman and Tavistock clinic that is saying no,..very unusual, and surprisingly sensible in the circumstances.. these men really don’t like being told no. I really really hope they are not in a women’s prison.

I see you've decided to give the non sequiturs a go on a variety of threads this morning, Bronners.

Should a convicted paedophile with offences against young girls be permitted to sue the prison service for not sufficiently accommodating their sexual identity?

Yes or no?

I don’t think anyone should be compelled to refer to a convicted male sex offender as ‘she’.