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An insurance company now wishes to lecture us

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 20:39

Aviva shared these lovely tweets today. I am actually insured with them but I will not be renewing. And they are not bothered by customers leaving, clearly.

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:54

Aviva UK - who sell financial products which are generally actual, real sex based - health insurance, pensions, life cover... what a shower of idiots.

This is what happens when you let the weans run amock with the ‘easy’ bit of marketing.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:51

Women (generally) just don’t feel comfortable bare-arsed with a flimsy piece of board between them and their male colleagues, rustling tampon packs or piddling/farting. And don’t even think about the ‘arse cams’ planted in loos.

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 21:51

Here’s some clarity on their position.

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 27/11/2019 21:49

Apparently the men’s loo is grim.

Yep. That was our argument. To be fair they followed all the rules for gender neutral toilets - floor to ceiling doors, sinks in every toilet, tampon disposals in every cubicle. But strangely the women didn’t want wee on the floor. So they switched them back. (To be exact they left a very small number gender neutral but as they used to be male ones nobody cared as the demographic using them did not actually change.)

LangCleg · 27/11/2019 21:47

This is what happens when the waters are muddied by Stonewall because there are very different issues at play depending what part of the alphabet you focus on.

Exactly. They've done the LGB no favours.

And it shows exactly how ludicrously unthinking these Woke corporate virtue signals are.

FemaleAndLearning · 27/11/2019 21:44

Looked at Stonewall rainbow laces. It is very vague, but under facilities it mentions gender neutral changing rooms, so mixed sex. No direct mention of trans people identifying into the opposite sex class.
www.stonewall.org.uk/top-tips-lgbt-inclusion-sport

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:41

Why was that then? I wouldn’t want to share loos with the men on my floor (several firms). Apparently the men’s loo is grim.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 27/11/2019 21:40

Gender neutral toilets lasted all of 9 days at Aviva.....

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:37

Oh they have their names and photos on their header! Why would a company do that?

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 21:35

And I’m just reading another of Katie’s tweets about standing with people regardless of their gender identity. That doesn’t sound like male teams hounding out gay men to me.

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spongedog · 27/11/2019 21:34

@TheABC that is a good point! There was an EU ruling a few years ago about insurance companies not being able to use sex to distinguish risk. Perhaps that doesnt apply for gender.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:32

And now women are being hounded/pushed out of their sports, oh the irony!

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 21:32

That might be the case stucknoue but it doesn’t read that way to me. If it is about that then it should be specific about it’s aims.

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stucknoue · 27/11/2019 21:28

It's to stop homophobia in team sports! Well male team sports, they have a history of hounding out those who are gay

TheABC · 27/11/2019 21:26

Am I the only one who smirked at the "lycra surprise by Mr Motivator"? Poor employees.

Actually, I am wondering now if I can play with my annuity forecasts by declaring myself a transman. It will be interesting to see if they conflate sex and gender where their money is concerned.

JacobReesClunge · 27/11/2019 21:24

An insurance company preaching about welcoming everyone as equal is particularly hilarious.

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JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 21:22

Sorry I had to run out and do a DC pick up. My issue isn't about the inclusion of trans people in sport , although 60% said they didn’t feel excluded, of course anyone should be able to play sport. It’s was the tone of Katie and the sort of Lib Dem response to people who aren’t on their page. The Stonewall promotion in their tweet is the giveaway to what they mean by ‘inclusive’ and people are aware enough to pick up on it.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:17

They think persons will start throwing their money at them.

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/11/2019 21:16

Another company that won't rest until women have surrendered their lives, identities, spaces and sport to males.

They're off my list.

Baffled at why retail suddenly involves throwing your preaching and evangelism for advanced misogyny, or Momentum, or Ukip, or Christian Science, or whatever else politics you're personally high on. The point is supposed to be to get people to part with money to buy your product.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/11/2019 21:10

Not that Katie maybe...

Coyoacan · 27/11/2019 21:09

Well they obviously have more customers than they can deal with, don't they?

The campaign is not clear but the attitude of Kate ...

AutumnRose1 · 27/11/2019 21:08

“ This is what happens when the waters are muddied by Stonewall because there are very different issues at play depending what part of the alphabet you focus on.”

This.

I must be honest, my elderly mother has insurance with them and this would piss her off but if I tell her, I’ll be the one looking for a new insurer and then that one will get stonewalled as well!

Procrastinator2 · 27/11/2019 21:02

Jan Gooding, chair of Stonewall, used to work for Aviva.

OvaHere · 27/11/2019 20:59

This is what happens when the waters are muddied by Stonewall because there are very different issues at play depending what part of the alphabet you focus on.

For example there is a big issue with lack of acceptance of gay men in team sports especially at a high level e.g. premiership football. I think tackling this is something many people would get behind.

However this is completely different to males competing and dominating in women's sports because of identity and pronouns.

Considering how much money Stonewall has I think it's pretty shoddy that they go for these vague soundbites and mantras that specify absolutely nothing.

It might be a shame that people are now telling them and anyone associated with them to fuck off but they've created all this distrust.