Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us

207 replies

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 27/11/2019 20:39

Aviva shared these lovely tweets today. I am actually insured with them but I will not be renewing. And they are not bothered by customers leaving, clearly.

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
Devereux1 · 01/12/2019 09:23

I was alerted to this Aviva debarcle yesterday, and we're taking steps accordingly by going through our policies and cancelling anything associated with Aviva.

What I find even more shocking than the campaign, is the arrogance of "Yannis", "Kate" etc on Twitter in their responses. Have you noticed, they are cowardly not responding to any questions or concerns about women's safety or identity.

I'd encourage everyone to spread the word and if you are as disgusted as many women are, ensure you cancel Aviva policies.

PreseaCombatir · 30/11/2019 23:37

It was definitely a coordinated effort: wonder if Yannis has too much to drink as well 🤷‍♀️

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
Catmaiden · 30/11/2019 22:59

I'll not be renewing my insurance with them, and I've told them so.
JL, M&S, now Aviva. Dear me, they really are rather stupid, aren't they?

JacobReesClunge · 30/11/2019 21:54

I wouldn't trust Stonewall to run such a campaign at the moment.

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/11/2019 15:00

I would be right behind a campaign about homophobia in sport.

So would I, whole heartedly, if homophobia still means what I thought it means and what it's always meant.

But then I'm a lesbian who was called homophobic for saying lesbians were homosexual women, so I now have no idea what it means or what agenda is going on when it's used, and I'm not sure anyone else can be either.

hopelesssuitcase · 30/11/2019 13:58

I would be right behind a campaign about homophobia in sport. Or indeed one about trans people experiencing prejudice while playing sport. But not behind one that would end sport for women.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 30/11/2019 13:08

You have neither read the thread or the twitter page, have you Cultoffortnite. Totally twisting or misunderstanding the whole issue.

Cultoffortnite · 30/11/2019 13:02

The laces campaign is to highlight homophobia in sport - particularly males sport where no active professional footballers for example are 'out' - but goes right down to LGBT people not feeling welcome to play in team sports with hetero people. My DM asked me why there was a 'gay' rugby team in our town, why did they feel the need to be in a gay team rather than just a 'normal' team and I had to point out that the men formed the team because they weren't allowed to join the other teams as they didn't want to paly with openly gay men.

If that makes you want to leave AVIVA then you go for it OP - I doubt that you'll be missed,,,

spongedog · 30/11/2019 11:31

Great tip! Thank you!

Needmoresleep · 30/11/2019 10:36

The trick with the ft is to Google.

Type in keywords like FT Darlington Aviva and the article comes up without a paywall

spongedog · 30/11/2019 10:10

any one have a link to the FT article - it is behind a wall for me. thanks

DadDadDad · 30/11/2019 10:05

Insurance companies in many ways were our best hope. We wanted to assess the risks early and prevent, say, 16 year olds with XX chromosomes playing competitive sport against smaller girls.

I wouldn't necessarily take a few tweets by the communications team as evidence of the way the actual business of insurance is being run. (Speaking as someone who works on the financial side of a large insurer). These are people whose job is to present the nice fluffy brand, who will have little understanding of actuarial statistics, managing risk etc which will steer pricing and underwriting decisions more than any PR considerations. As with a lot of large companies, they may churn out all the "worthy" corporate cliches to the public (and their employees), but there will be plenty of employees quietly pulling a sceptical face and getting on with doing their job professionally.

Needmoresleep · 30/11/2019 09:25

It’s a pity. We all know that trangenderism is going to collapse into a heap of litigation. However we want to happen before to many organisations, sports etc reach positions they cannot row back from, and before too many lives are damaged or destroyed.

Insurance companies in many ways were our best hope. We wanted to assess the risks early and prevent, say, 16 year olds with XX chromosomes playing competitive sport against smaller girls. Or to refuse to insure prison placing TG sex offenders in women’s prisons without stringent risk analysis, or to ensure that teenage girls were provided with safe toilet facilities in nightclubs.

But Aviva seems to have decided that wokeness comes before reality.

MissMarpletheMurderer · 29/11/2019 23:12

I don't agree with Katie's views but i am horrified by how her colleagues have thrown her under the bus. They basically said 'don't worry the poor little woman got confused' Katie if you are reading this do you now get why we fight for women's rights?

traceyracer · 29/11/2019 22:55

Tom and Kate should book a room together methinks...

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/11/2019 21:52

It becomes clearer, "Ms Darlington, who became group chief risk officer at Aviva

I have a friend who works in their head office. They certainly ramped it up for pride this year. He went to quite a lot of stuff they put on. He's not actually gay, of cause...... 🤷‍♀️

PegasusReturns · 29/11/2019 21:42

I have quite a lot of business with Aviva I'll write to them tomorrow since they've not bothered to answer my tweets

Unformidable · 29/11/2019 18:29

It becomes clearer, "Ms Darlington, who became group chief risk officer at Aviva in 2015, is one of her industry’s most prominent senior executives promoting LGBT+"rights.
www.ft.com/content/79578b86-cc75-11e8-8d0b-a6539b949662

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
AFairlyHardAvocado · 29/11/2019 18:29

FFS.

And now a "heavy night", wine emoji and winky face?

Again, FFS.

An insurance company now wishes to lecture us
BickerinBrattle · 29/11/2019 18:14

Meanwhile, their actuaries will continue beetling away in the basement, calculating and circulating to all Aviva agents the various mortality risk factors according to biological sex.

Beamur · 29/11/2019 17:56

Oh my! How bizarre.

testing987654321 · 29/11/2019 17:54

I am completely shocked, what a mess. Is no-one senior paying attention?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 29/11/2019 16:35

They will be citing this in future marketing and customer services courses (and no one will believe it)

JacobReesClunge · 29/11/2019 16:23

Wow. This is like a masterclass in unprofessional.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 29/11/2019 16:20

Have @AvivaUK been hacked?? The tweets are increasingly unprofessional and bizarre. My personal favourite.