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Body positive book for toddlers!

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WomanBornNotWorn · 26/11/2019 12:19

Great idea - helping small children

mobile.twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1199056010520023040

Body positive book for toddlers!
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DuMondeB · 04/12/2019 21:03

My daughter’s body tried to kill her (her white blood cells are all her red blood cells) but I still found the book to be a suitable positive message.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 20:57

How do.you celebrate something that.keeps you in intense pain every hour of every day? That stops you from.doing things that you want to? That requires you to.under go relentless treatment, surgeries and medication that at best only slow down the progression of the disease?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 04/12/2019 20:54

I'm sorry to hear about your history and your daughter's history, Hearhooves. That sounds really tough, to say the least.

Acceptance and celebration of our bodies - even with what are sometimes seen as failings - seems like a generally good thing to me.

DuMondeB · 04/12/2019 20:43

I was given a copy of this at DJ Lippy’s women only disco on Saturday.

It’s very cute and I hope will be a positive reinforcement for my littlest, who is still suffering some of the long term effects of being seriously ill last year.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 20:13

And many disabled people DO think their bodies are just fine. Many Deaf people would not dream of surgical intervention to give them hearing.

Which is great for them. I'm not one of them though. I will spend the rest of my life trying to find a way to change what's going on in my body because I'm angry at it and how it is limiting and controlling my life. The thought of accepting this terrifies me because I cannot comprehend facing up to this for the rest of my life. The hope of it changing is the only thing that allows me to carry on.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 20:10

Do you have an issue about supporting children to avoid a lifetime of medication and a lifetime of potentially aggressively fighting the physical reality of the body they have with surgery and pronoun-use?

I've cross posted with you.

Interestingly, I think that I do have an issue with accepting the physical reality of my body, though it's nothing to do with gender dysphoria but physical disabilities. Both myself and my dd have had to accept surgeries and life long medication in an attempt to change our bodies. Perhaps that's why I find it so difficult to understand this - I would give anything to change my body, or my DDS body, so no, I can't comprehend loving my body as it is because it causes me severe pain and limits my life every single day. I take, and my dd has taken, multiple medications with terrible side effects in an attempt to control the symptoms of our condition so I feel like I have a completely different perspective on this.

drspouse · 04/12/2019 20:08

And yet some parents encourage their children to alter their healthy bodies or think their bodies are a mistake.
And many disabled people DO think their bodies are just fine. Many Deaf people would not dream of surgical intervention to give them hearing.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 20:04

Instead of simply insulting me drspouse why not just explain?

I am sorry but I don't understand. Its published by a group who deal with trans issues and yet apparently the book is nothing to do with trans issues so, no, I don't understand. If you do, why can't you explain it?

What is the purpose of the book? Someone up thread said it's to tell children to love their body no matter what. I find that an impossible concept due to a series of lifelong illnesses that both I and my dd have. To love a broken and defective body seems incomprehensible to me.

HandsOffMyRights · 04/12/2019 20:01

This looks great.
I'll be ordering some for family and friends.

pombear · 04/12/2019 19:59

Hearshooves
If it's got nothing to do with the trans issue why is it published by transgender trend?

As I understand it, this book is about supporting children to feel OK with the body they have, and if it has a secondary-issue, it's about not encouraging them to listen to a specific agenda that is currently leading them into a lifetime of medication via puberty blockers, cross sex hormones and surgery. Transgender Trend is concerned with these issues.

Do you have an issue about supporting children to avoid a lifetime of medication and a lifetime of potentially aggressively fighting the physical reality of the body they have with surgery and pronoun-use?

Surely if gender is this nebulous thing that is sometimes 'assigned at birth'/something you know innately/fluid/non binary, nothing to do with stereotypes, whatever you want it to be, the only contstant is your body. Do you not want parents to talk to their children about the reality of bodies? What book would you prefer them to use with their young children?

drspouse · 04/12/2019 19:34

hearhooves you must either be hard of thinking or disingenuous then. I can't decide based on your posting history.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/12/2019 19:31

Mine came yesterday; it's a really beautiful book for young children!

The same characters are followed through the book, they all have different likes and wear different clothes, some are in wheel chairs, one has a broken arm, some boys have long hair, some girls have short. They are all seen doing and playing a wide variety of games, a lot of emphasis on dressing up and pretending and then taking off the costumes and doing something different.

Shows two of them using a proper loo which is helpful for potty training.

Emphasises that in the bath their body is cloth less and is hidden by clothes during the day.

I especially love little frank with long hair who enjoys playing hair dressers as he reminds me of a little boy I once taught who loved to play this game!

Lovely rhymes and repetitive phrases!

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 19:07

Well no I don't.

Given that it's published by transgender trend I would think that it does have something to do with the trans issue but other posters have said that it doesn't, hence my question.

drspouse · 04/12/2019 18:50

hearhooves you know perfectly well what the answer to that is.

FemaleAndLearning · 04/12/2019 17:53

Mine arrived today. I bought it to support Transgender Trend and they sent me some pamphlets too.
One of the pages says "You're born in your body. You don't have a spare. So love it. Hug it. Treat it with care."
Lovely.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 04/12/2019 17:48

If it's got nothing to do with the trans issue why is it published by transgender trend?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 04/12/2019 17:44

Sigh.

For writing a warm, positive, utterly non-controversial book.

For suggesting that kids can be happy in their bodies, whatever their bodies are like.

For daring to write a book that doesn't push the blue=boys, pink=girls?

I got mine the other day. It's lovely.

Twitter is just twitter - it's a hellhole, and meaningless piffle, in the greater scheme of things.

iguanadonna · 04/12/2019 17:17

It looks like the author has had to protect her Twitter account.

WomanBornNotWorn · 04/12/2019 17:03

Rachel Rooney is receiving some vile trolling for the book #MyBodyIsMe by @RooneyRachel and Jessica Ahlberg, published by Transgender Trend @Transgendertrd

Though I wasn't able to be a mum, I'm buying one.

mobile.twitter.com/RooneyRachel

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LangCleg · 26/11/2019 16:52

Bollocks is it.

Oh, give over.

It's a body positive book for young children. It refrains from grooming them and inducing dysphoria in vulnerable ones. Your objection to this is noted.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 26/11/2019 16:39

A child's attention is drawn to body issues from about as soon as they start interacting with the world. If they watch TV, films, read books, play with dolls, they will already have been absorbing messages - some subtle, some less so, about how their body 'should' look, be and how they should act. They're also acutely aware of what we sometimes call 'gender' and sometimes call sex stereotypes.

I think this book looks wonderful.

drspouse · 26/11/2019 15:57

Because the whole world will introduce the idea of not liking it (hence the 6 year olds thinking they are fat, and thinking they are the opposite sex) so we as parents need to tell them it's lovely.

My DD is BAME and we have carefully told her that her brown skin is lovely and she now is confident this is true. As most of the people she sees around her don't look like her, this needs explicitly saying. In particular she doesn't look like most of the characters in her books, on TV etc. (though Cbeebies does a really good job).

Velveteenfruitbowl · 26/11/2019 15:51

I don’t think it’s appropriate to draw a child’s attention to body issues. Young children are so wonderfully carefree, why introduce the idea of liking (and by implication not liking) your body?

thefluffysideofgrey · 26/11/2019 15:49

Bollocks is it.

'Some people like blue things, some people like pink things' or words to that affect (in the book).

Uncompromisingwoman · 26/11/2019 15:45

The whole point of this book is that it is not about trans issues. It's aimed at children being positive about their bodies - not told that they are somehow faulty or wrong and need to be fixed. It's outrageous that we need books like this but given some of the awful gaslighting materials that are pushed at even the youngest children at the moment, it's so important that there are books that centre children in who they are and not who adults would like them to be.

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