Labour promises to keep single-sex exemptions

Labour definition of "single sex" = females and transwomen.
Because TWAW.

And anyone who wants to be a transwoman is one. So anyone is a woman. And we will preserve spaces especially for um, anyone. And everyone.

Such utter wankery.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine's pic makes it crystal clear, with the single comment of "...all women, and that of course includes transwomen"

Labour definition of "single sex" = females and transwomen.
Because TWAW.

(also note they called the PC "gender assignment" not "gender reassignment")

Because of the James Kirkup link to Twatter I found this exchange. Neil, I like you. 😂

Question Time question are pre selected.

I hope there are serious ructions at HQ.

Lib Dem’s are holding the door open for any Labour TRAs looking for a new home. They aren’t picky.

The "clarification" is yet more fence-sitting and obfuscation.

They are committed to introducing self ID and will make 'gender identity' a protected characteristic. Sounds pretty clear to me.

The perfect party for the batman villain Twoface.

Wouldn't be a great if a question could be asked at the leaders Question Time - I wonder if there are any MNers in the audience

Why should women feel unsafe because of the cultural shift to make LGBT more inclusive, you numpties???

Ugh.

And ' no spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people'.

When trans people is anyone you like? So no spaces will discriminate against who? - paedophiles, predators, rapists?

Complete word salad.

That is a good tweet.

Everard
If you have three men, one ids as a transwoman and therefore protected under gender reassignment, and another who is Indian, you must treat all three men the same. You can not deny the Indian man a service or treat him less fairly because of his race, and you cannot treat the transwoman differently from the other two men due to gender reassignment.

Single sex spaces are designed to overcome discrimination against women and enable them to access services etc on an equal footing to men. This is based on people’s sex (or legal sex if they hold a GRC) and has nothing to do with gender reassignment. If someone holds a GRC they may still be excluded from some places based on their biological sex.

The take away message is that women will buy this policy "pat on the head", because they are not very bright and easily pleased.

Wrong!

Oh that's a brilliant tweet.

LOL

To me, the sneakiness is worse than anything. The ambiguity smacks of being deliberate. Otherwise why not just come out and clarify?

Exactly! They say they will ensure that the SB exemptions are understood so presumably they must already know what their understanding of the SB exemptions are. So why not state this openly and clearly. It’s dishonest and disingenuous and leaves the door open for them to do whatever they like once / if they are elected.

The "clarification" is yet more fence-sitting and obfuscation.

"That is illegal and it will stay illegal" so we intend to change the law.

Dear Dawn.....

So according to Dawn Butler, Labour will introduce self ID and remove 'outdated language' from the Equalities Act?
Which bits exactly? Does it mean removal of the single-sex exemptions, as demanded by Stonewall?

Sorry Labour, it's a fuck off from me.

plus

i think if self id get legal position, it's more legit to teach
kids gender ideology.
more legit to trans children and more open minded sex ed.
and there's less free speech on that.

I don't trust Labour anymore. It doesn't make sense for them to turn around to suddenly support women after they've been pushing self ID for years. They've treated a lot of women badly and haven't condemned the abuse that women have had from trans activists. I feel like they just want us to vote for them, then they'll try to redefine 'sex' as 'anyone who identifies as the female sex' or something.

I still haven’t seen anything that helps me to understand exactly what they mean!

They mean "Vote for us"

According to Sam Coates (Sky) there has been another "clarification":

We don’t want to discriminate against trans people, we just want single sex services where appropriate.

Like, I much prefer getting a smear test from a woman, because she is likely to have or have had a cervix and thus knows how it feels to be the in my position.
A transman in need of a cervical smear would also benefit from having it done by a female health care professional (and good notes that make it clear that the patient presents as male but definitely has a cervix).

It’s illegal to discriminate against people undergoing gender reassignment under the EA, just as it’s legal to have single sex exemptions. I still haven’t seen anything that helps me to understand exactly what they mean!

some of the word salad responses to that tweet from Butler are doing my head in.....

you so nearly had me thinking you were cautiously starting the row back Labour but fuck you! plus the idea that Dawn Butler would have actual power to enact her woo policy fills me with horror