Labour promises to keep single-sex exemptions

Yes but did the spokesperson give their name? Cos unless it was Corbyn or McDonell then I'm not interested.

So this "Labour party" is it some kind of nursery school?

Ok, so no changes to the single-sex provisions according to the "sources", but they will amend the Equality Act to make gender identity a protected characteristic - yes? That is what their spokesperson told Sky.

That sounds plausible to me. But to be honest, I don't care what any of them tweet or put on Facebook, or about any of their confidential press briefings. The only people who can clear this up are the party leadership.

And I don't think we should underestimate how angry the TWAW wing of Labour will be about this. They've not exactly lost but they must have thought they had it in the bag and I imagine they'll be fighting back pretty hard.

ooooh indeed @DuMondeB - god I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that meeting

Oooh.

Just when I thought I could vote. Along comes Dawn Butler and wipes the floor with women’s rights. WOMEN AND EQUALITIES MINISTER ?? MY ARSE.

Bird I understand the EA, it’s Labour I don’t understand! I think my wording was ambiguous.

Reduced physical and sexual boundaries around children and women I'd imagine.

Exactly.

There really is no reason to dismantle sex segregation.

Pretending it's a political ideology, that it's about human rights, that it's something to do with sexual orientation, it's all nonsense.

It's a men's sexual rights initiative.

Dawn Butler MP Facebook message, 3 hours ago:

'Labour will reform the GRA to introduce self-declaration for trans people.

We will remove outdated language from the Equalities Act.

And there is no way spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people. That is illegal and it will stay illegal.'

www.facebook.com/DawnButlerBrent/?tn=kF&tn-str=kF

Labour definition of "single sex" = females and transwomen.
Because TWAW.

I think we all knew this inevitably would be the case.

I expected that. I didn't expect the bonus stupid of amending the Equality Act to make 'gender identity' a PC.

Certain (fictional) former and current presidents and princes would not benefit as they are pretty much immune already, but their friends would.

But why?

Reduced physical and sexual boundaries around children and women I'd imagine.

Imagine blurring boundaries so much with reporting that so restrictive it becomes okay.

My only conclusion is that there are enough men in power who are demanding access to vulnerable women and girls

There are also enough women willing to support them. It’s not just a male led it’s also women colluding with them.

A few very powerful people want it to happen.

But why?

If someone holds a GRC they may still be excluded from some places based on their biological sex.

Birdsfoottrefoil do you have a link for that? I'm sure I've seen something like that somewhere in the legislation or guidance, but when I was looking for it yesterday I couldn't find it.

Labour definition of "single sex" = females and transwomen.
Because TWAW.

I'm pretty sure this is what Labour mean.

Do we know where that clarification has come from? Because as far as I'm concerned, if they don't want to put their name to it then they're not worth listening to.

And like I've said, I don't think Dawn Butler is worth listening to either. If she had won the argument within her own party then the manifesto would be clearer - and not in a good way. She'll be fighting to save her reputation with her former allies.

Labour has shown time and time again the contempt with which they hold women. They won't protect us, they'd sooner throw us under a bus. If someone shows you who they are believe them.

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...So then why do it?!

Any way you turn this, it's nuts.

My only conclusion is that there are enough men in power who are demanding access to vulnerable women and girls.

So then why do it?!

A few very powerful people want it to happen.

...So then why do it?!

Any way you turn this, it's nuts.

The enraging thing is, why won't Labour just own it?

Because they know most of the public is against it.

The enraging thing is, why won't Labour just own it?

If you have the policy, and you think it is right and justifiable and a vote winning policy for your target voters, stand up and be counted for it. Be proud of it! Stand alongside your words and shout them out loud!

Why the cowardice and mealy mouthed comments?

Christ. If you have to add clarification to a manifesto just a day after release then both the manifesto and their ability to communicate is shit.

I do not trust Labour on this, not one bit. They are being duplicitous in the hope no one will scrutinise beyond the sound bites.

Labour definition of "single sex" = females and transwomen.
Because TWAW.

I think we all knew this inevitably would be the case.