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I'm loving Catilyn Jenner but..

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MissMarpletheMurderer · 20/11/2019 21:40

I think she is funny and sassy and doesn't take herself too seriously. Her dude looks like a lady piece on IACeleb showed her humor.
However tonight she said that it's hard work becoming a women as there is so much more work (James called it women admin) and that she needs to get up an hour earlier now she is a women and can't just shower and go.
Why does this make you a woman. I wash and go, I don't have manicures nor do I wear make up, I do not get up early to get ready but I'm equally a woman. Why should woman equal groomed?

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OhHolyJesus · 20/11/2019 22:47

Both CJ and CJ's partner do not have the correct errr 'equipment' to birth a baby.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7312371/Caitlyn-Jenner-69-wants-baby-gal-pal-Sophia-Hutchens-22-looking-surrogate.html

(Gal pal? What an awful phrase!)

Claims were called foolish by CJ in the metro a short while later but should a womb need hiring CJ can always ask Kim who may have some contacts....

Findumdum1 · 20/11/2019 22:46

Hang on, CJ does not look good. The plastic surgery is awful. As others have said, seems fairly innoffensive, in a spoilt brat rich American way, but she does not look good, in any objective sense and she is not at all feminine, in any commonly understood way.

FamilyOfAliens · 20/11/2019 22:45

I dont understand why she has a 23 year old girlfriend, does that make her a lesbian?

A lesbian is a same-sex attracted adult human female, so no.

Qcng · 20/11/2019 22:45

CJ has denied the relationship with Sophie (TW).

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 20/11/2019 22:44

Hardly worth putting on your CV is it?

Maybe where you're struggling to find something under 'Hobbies'?

abouttime2 · 20/11/2019 22:44

@Qcng I think she has undergone full gender reassignment. I can't say for sure as I haven't seen it 😂 but from various interviews I've watched I think she has

littlecabbage · 20/11/2019 22:44

ALittleBitofVitriol

I do agree with you that a lot of women "groom" due to female socialisation. I don't think I worded my post very well.

I was trying to make the point that Caitlyn thinks Caitlyn HAS to do this in order to be a woman, thus reinforcing the stereotype.

EachandEveryone · 20/11/2019 22:43

What do you mean?

FamilyOfAliens · 20/11/2019 22:42

Her experience is different to born women, of course, but is unique to herself.

Everyone in the world has their own unique life experience. Hardly worth putting on your CV is it?

Qcng · 20/11/2019 22:41

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IfIShouldFallFromGraceWithGod · 20/11/2019 22:41

Isn't the girlfriend also a trans woman?
I'm not liking CJ but I can't stand the Kardishians and generally dislike the overly made up/surgically enhanced look. CJ has the over confidence /self importance/arrogance that is often seen in Americans that go into UK reality TV. Perhaps the different culture but I don't like it

TiddyTid · 20/11/2019 22:37

I like her. I see her for what she is. Trans woman. Her experience is different to born women, of course, but is unique to herself.

EachandEveryone · 20/11/2019 22:36

I dont understand why she has a 23 year old girlfriend, does that make her a lesbian?

I think she seems nice enough.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 20/11/2019 22:35

littlecabbage
But it's not a free 'choice' made in a vacuum. It is part of gendered socialisation, women are conditioned to know that certain grooming is womaning properly.
Not shaving legs/armpits, for example, is seen as dirty only for women
Men working in offices aren't told they look sick/unprofessional if they don't wear makeup or heels etc.

Woman = decorative, first and foremost.
A principle that CJ has spent a lot of money to worship.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 20/11/2019 22:35

I'm finding the repeated use of her name over and over by some posters to avoid saying a pronoun in a sentence and the use of they for her too jarring (using your jarring word for want of a better one)

You're finding that jarring on FWR? Grin

You must be permanently all ajar Willis.

Qcng · 20/11/2019 22:34

If CJ had said "...so much more work in becoming a transwoman" I'd be 100% sympathetic to CJ.

It's the phrase "... becoming a woman" that's a bit irksome, because, soz babe, unfortunately CJ you didn't become a woman, you became a transwoman which is really really fine.

I get what you're trying to say, OP.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 20/11/2019 22:33

this could be to do with her age as much as anything though imho

Pandaintheporridge · 20/11/2019 22:33

I think she wants to look good so she thinks she has to work at it, this could be to do with her age as much as anything though imho
Aye that'll be it.

rarelyonatuesday · 20/11/2019 22:32

I always think that it's better not to spend too much time getting ready or you might, for example, have to drive too fast when you're running late That can be very dangerous. Just saying. But... you know... brave and stunning...

FamilyOfAliens · 20/11/2019 22:31

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WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 20/11/2019 22:31

Anyone else?
Not just you, I'm finding the repeated use of her name over and over by some posters to avoid saying a pronoun in a sentence and the use of they for her too jarring (using your jarring word for want of a better one)
That's what you meant right?

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 20/11/2019 22:31

That and the gushing. Hmm

UrsulaPandress · 20/11/2019 22:30

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Butterisbest · 20/11/2019 22:29

She's dressed, that's why I can't continue

Butterisbest · 20/11/2019 22:28

Oh Holy 🤣🤣

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