I'm loving Catilyn Jenner but..

I think she’s great actually and I did not expect to like her.
Given the family she has, I’m not surprised she thinks women have to spend hours getting ready. Have you seen them? It’s sad but I think that’s life when you’re in the public eye in general and I think it’s also a confidence thing. She is undergoing a huge transition in front of the public eye, the amount of pressure on her shoulders must be immense. She seems very ‘normal’ in her attire too, the first day she arrived in a shirt and jeans and minimal makeup. I think she’s doing a great job of showing the side that doesn’t get shown much.

Since it isn't grooming, what does she have to do to be a woman? What did I have to do?

You didn’t have to do anything except grow up with XX chromosomes.

If this thread was in Telly Addicts (where I really think it should be), I wonder if it would still be subject to FWR rules?

No, she, or you, doesn't have to do it to be a woman
Since it isn't grooming, what does she have to do to be a woman? What did I have to do?

Jenner’s figure isn’t amazing, it’s a male body with surgically applied breasts.

she now enjoys as a woman

Is it with my fanjo?

I agree, I'd like to hear her opinion on transwomen competing against women.

[Jenner's] figure is amazing

Yeah, it's a smidge easier to have an amazing thin figure when you are a former 70's Olympic decathlete. Of course only men (and former men) would know, as women couldn't compete.

I really like her. She's funny, kind, strong and encourages others. I'd say I know many women who spend longer than men to get ready. If(only if) you wear make up, you're already taking longer. I think having made such a life change, she's revelling in all the things she now enjoys as a woman. No, she, or you, doesn't have to do it to be a woman.

FamilyOfAliens

Thanks I hear you that's why I didn't speak the whole truth just said what CJ's body 'looks like' hoping that it would pass through moderation. Thanks for looking out for me I do appreciate it.

stoptheplanet

I’d be careful posting the word man in the same sentence as any reference to Caitlyn Jenner. I’ve been deleted on this thread for the same and am apparently now on my final warning from MNHQ .

Just avoid biological truth and you should be ok.

She's a prime example of why trans women should not compete against proper women in sport.

I was wondering if anyone has asked Jenner how she feels about transwomen competing in women's sport? As a former very high-profile athlete, I'm curious to know her opinion.

she is definitely more gorgeous than me and her figure is amazing.

Wow! Thanks for making me aspirate my coffee! CJ's figure looks like a man who has boobs. I won't comment on attractiveness because it's highly subjective but if you can't see that's a male body you need glasses or new set of eyes.

Pull your head out of your reality TV saturated ass.

Is this thread a joke?

What the actual fuck?!?!?

This thread is in the wrong place - it has nothing to do with FWR.

Important point upthread that a woman died because of Jenner and Jenner is now treated as some sort of 'national treasure' for some. How caring is Jenner really then (mentioned upthread)?

I don't watch this show but I bet you Jenner is centre stage, just like Willoughby was, just like Paris Lees on Celeb BB Big Mouth.

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/im-celebs-caitlyn-jenner-killed-20927125

@MyEnormousTurnip
I do mean something else. I don't want to discuss in any detail here. Caitlyn took part in a TV Documentary and that documentary was very explicit about Caitlyn's surgery.

“I sometimes wonder idly what such people will do when they are elderly. The plastered in make up, porn star look will be very inappropriate by then! “

On holiday in Vancouver this year I saw someone who was clearly an elderly male dressed in short skirt, big wig, piles of makeup, fishnet tights, long nails and high heels. To be honest it was a sad sight.

And as for the 'hour' getting ready why did she sit down with the lads to say that? plus if that's an hour getting ready, she needs to rethink

I can't stand Caitlyn. I find her irritating and attention seeking and FOREVER going on about what do your parents think.

There really is only one way to be a woman and make-up has exactly nothing to do with it
Quite.

My XX chromosomes require very little maintenance, coffee/honey/bread and the occasional dash of vodka keep the whole system tip top.

I just think it's bollocks ..

I'm 29 and my hair is just simple and straight - I wash it a couple of times a week and brush it before I go out. I never wear any makeup. More often than not I'm in jeans and a hoodie/top.

I've never struggled to attract men, never been single other than through choice, and even when I'm going somewhere special I don't tend to wear makeup .. because it makes my skin break out no matter what I wear, and it's not worth it.

It has never ever made me feel any less of a woman.

Caitlyn is the reason I won't be watching any of this series of I'm a Celebrity

Caitlyn is the reason I am watching it. Fascinating to observe and to watch people's responses and reactions.