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Good luck Harry The Owl

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 08:45

Court case today.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop

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OvaHere · 21/11/2019 20:37

PC GUL typed up 28 pages on it!

Wasn't one of the comments that the US Constitution only runs to 26 pages? Grin

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 21/11/2019 20:37

Finally caught up with this thread after 2 days of work & travelling.

Thank you for the updates & the amazing twitter thread. I have laughed, eye-rolled & done some proper big swears. Well done Spero for making it so readable.

Thank You Harry for bringing the case at what I'm sure has been great personal cost.

And Thank You Judge for getting it & highlighting the nonsense. I'm looking forward to reading the judgement.

JacobReesClunge · 21/11/2019 20:36

I wonder how much public money defending this indefensible behaviour has cost, and how many TAs or nurses we could've paid for this year instead?

midcenturylegs · 21/11/2019 20:33

A favourite lawyer-esque person we may all know withdraw her "die-TERF-scum" comments on the case earlier today (discussing their view of the vanity-nature of the JR case and the hatred we terfs have).. someone posted a screenshot of the horrible "sk my lady dk" tweet suggesting the hate was directed the other way around.
It's interesting that said poster was tweeting about the fact that Harry was a millionaire and this was all about money...
In any case all their threads have since this afternoon been deleted.

nettie434 · 21/11/2019 20:33

Great to read the account of Harry's case. The judge seems to be the same one who reduced John Broadhurst's sentence from murder to manslaughter. Sorry - I feel I am putting a dampener on this.

HipTightOnions · 21/11/2019 20:31

Just caught up with today’s commentary (many thanks Spero). What a pleasure to see the whole mess exposed so clearly.

I rarely post and I’m not on twitter (have been reading and digging though) so just wanted to add here my admiration and thanks to all involved - you are doing such important and skilful work.

drspouse · 21/11/2019 20:28

Hunt and peck, do you think?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 21/11/2019 20:23

was given so much police time over a non crime
PC GUL typed up 28 pages on it!

BarbaraStrozzi · 21/11/2019 20:18

Spot on, Ruffle. My DDad (currently visiting to look after me post medical procedure) just said similar when I told him about the case. He has also vowed to get his spade out.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 21/11/2019 20:18

"This person was very upset"

This is what is so ridiculous. Someone got very upset over second hand info that someone else had read on twitter and was given so much police time over a non crime.
Unless an actual crime has been committed, why is being "upset" by something enough to warrant this bullshit.

OvaHere · 21/11/2019 20:04

We discussed on Maya's thread who would take the leading parts in a future documentary-drama.

So @HazzaTheOwl who would you like to play you? Grin

RuffleCrow · 21/11/2019 20:04

Agree it's really just a symbol of police corruption as a whole. On this occasion they made the mistake of messing with people who were educated, organised aware of the law and knew their rights. Hence the case came to court. How many times a day do they do this to people who don't have the awareness or means to defend themselves?

theflushedzebra · 21/11/2019 19:59

Judge - I have become familiar with term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to deplatform those who hold different views.

A UK Judge said that today. That is HUGE. MONUMENTAL. That feeling I've had for the past couple of years - that either the whole world is going mad, or I am - has lifted somewhat.

Thanks to @Spero for incredible live-tweeting - hope you're enjoying a nice Wine or Brew now.

FloraGreysteel · 21/11/2019 19:57

Thank you @Spero for your excellent tweets, and @HazzaTheOwl it was lovely to meet you last night. Fingers crossed for a successful outcome in this extremely important case!

PS the buffet was very welcome Grin

clitherow · 21/11/2019 19:23

Once again, this sort of stuff has been going on for years. But nobody gave a toss. Or not enough of a toss to do anything about it.

If you raise wolves, you will be eaten. Just a matter of time.

Yes, I suppose it depends if you have been unlucky enough to fall foul of the police, otherwise most people remain oblivious to what is going on.

If we see this case in the context of the information in this Spectator article from 2015, things become even more worrying.

www.spectator.co.uk/2015/03/the-shocking-truth-about-police-corruption-in-britain/

Clymene · 21/11/2019 19:20

Enormous thanks to everyone at Fair Cop and big love to @Spero.

You are all absolutely exceptional human beings. Thank you for standing up against this institutional capture and shining a light on the sinister implications of a nebulous ideology ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks

Butterisbest · 21/11/2019 19:15

My thanks to Harry, Spero and all those that contributed to the hole that needed to be filled.

ProfessorSlocombe · 21/11/2019 19:14

With regard to the 'chilling effect' and that Harry was harmed by the Police intervention, am I right in recalling that the Police turned up at his work place and insinuated that he would be in trouble with his employers?

It is a very common tactic of police to "inform" employers that an employee has just been arrested. Regardless of whether they are then released without charge or "de-arrested" a second later.

Once again, this sort of stuff has been going on for years. But nobody gave a toss. Or not enough of a toss to do anything about it.

If you raise wolves, you will be eaten. Just a matter of time.

Stuffofawesome · 21/11/2019 19:07

Great big thanks Spero. Takes a lot of energy to do us all this service

MoobaaMoobaa · 21/11/2019 19:06

Thank you Harry for going through this and getting a light shone on it, and Thank you Spero keeping us updated.

I found this an interesting read.

medium.com/@elsaegret/meet-the-people-training-uk-police-on-trans-issues-191e46b18246

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 21/11/2019 19:04

My best bit (to paraphrase)
"it sounds like you impeached on his freedom of speech"
"This person was very upset"
"I understand that but there is nothing here that constitutes hate or harassment"
"You don't seem to understand just how upset they were, and we not talking criminal harassment...."
"There is nothing here that constitutes harassment under any definition of the term"

mcduffy · 21/11/2019 19:02

Thanks Spero, you shero!
Today's workday has fitted around a refresh of this thread and twitter whenever I could. My colleagues might have wondered about my permanent grin Grin

RaymondStopThat · 21/11/2019 18:59

I'm going to use the judge's words every time I report people to Twitter for calling me a TERF.

So pleased with how things seemed to have gone and that the judge got it. Hopefully this is the beginning of some immense changes.

Angryresister · 21/11/2019 18:47

And a special mention for scapa for her small remark connecting the mysterious mr Tucker to M & S pants. Reduced me to hysterical tears for about half an hour....thank you for cheering me up.....not to mention the general hilarity of the CofP defence.....

PurpleHoodie · 21/11/2019 18:42

Inspector: So sue us.

People: Ok.