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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 08:45

Court case today.

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Destinysdaughter · 21/11/2019 15:12

Once upon a time this is the sort of case that would have been discussed on Newsnight. Not any more it seems...

PurpleHoodie · 21/11/2019 15:12

^

Datun · 21/11/2019 15:12

And look at unredacted letter re complainant.
"Victim has herself been making derogatory comments"

LET THAT SINK IN
HUMBERSIDE REDACTED THIS

'Victim' is not vulnerable and they tried to hide this.

What a fucking liberty. Finally though, this is getting scrutinised.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/11/2019 15:11

FOR GOD'S SAKE PLEASE LOOK AT THE CAT. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN LYING TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THE LAW SAYS FOR YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN CAPTURED BY A LOBBY GROUP.

FleetsumNJetsum · 21/11/2019 15:09

Why is there nothing about this on the BBC News website? There is a story about a missing cat, so surely...

Destinysdaughter · 21/11/2019 15:09

Can't get over the term 'TERF ' being referred to by a High Court Judge!!!

clitherow · 21/11/2019 15:09

Clitheroe, this precise point is made in The Telegraph article. I wish I could figure out how to post a share token to it because it’s blistering about the entire case

I tried to read the article because I thought I was subscribed for a couple of freebies as I am with the Times but it won't let me on.

totaleclipse84 · 21/11/2019 15:08

Anyone else developing a massive crush on the judge?

PurpleHoodie · 21/11/2019 15:06

That sound shit clitherow. Hope things settle down/get sorted in your area soon (re: gangs)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/11/2019 15:06

Was foothills a reference to the term "peak t#$ns" that I'm not sure if we're allowed to use any more under the latest version of the special rules? Kind of waiting for a comment referencing crampons at this point. Clearly he's done some research.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/11/2019 15:06

Cannot believe that Humberside redacted the fact that the victim herself news making derogatory comments Shock

CaveMum · 21/11/2019 15:05

“ And look at unredacted letter re complainant.
"Victim has herself been making derogatory comments"

LET THAT SINK IN
HUMBERSIDE REDACTED THIS

'Victim' is not vulnerable and they tried to hide this.”

😱😱😱

Manderleyagain · 21/11/2019 15:03

I can't tell you what a physical & emotional response I had when I read this from fair cop live tweeting:

"Judge - I have become familiar with term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to deplatform those who hold different views.

If complainants comments directed particularly at women who hold TERF views that wouldn't be a protected characteristic."

PurpleHoodie · 21/11/2019 15:03

"Judge -

I have become familiar with the term TERF...."

[santa]

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/11/2019 15:03

Doesn't work for me because not a subscriber but may work if you are, I'm trying to extrapolate from how The Times works.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 21/11/2019 15:02

Thanks Its, thought I'd seen full articles pasted but I must be thinking of FB.

Kantastic · 21/11/2019 15:02

We're not saying you did anything wrong. Just that, if you keep tweeting, you will be doing something wrong. Also, if you keep tweeting, it's proof that we're not intimidating you into not tweeting, even though as we've already stated, we may choose to legally sanction you if you do keep tweeting... is that all clear or do I need to check your thinking?

(haha just kidding, you actually have done something wrong already, it's on your criminal record.)

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 21/11/2019 15:02

Judge - I have become familiar with term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to deplatform those who hold different views.

If complainants comments directed particularly at women who hold TERF views that wouldn't be a protected characteristic.

Perfection

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/11/2019 15:02

Actually, Bovary, I think you need to click the email icon that looks like an envelope to get a share link.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/11/2019 15:01

Not allowed - they may be able to archive it though?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 21/11/2019 15:00

Clitheroe, this precise point is made in The Telegraph article. I wish I could figure out how to post a share token to it because it’s blistering about the entire case

Bovary, could you C&P the article? (Is that allowed?)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/11/2019 15:00

Counsel for P - even taking the whole package, when looking at the effect of it, HM says he was concerned and anxious but we don't accept that evidence.

So, trans person makes a statement that a tweet has offended them or made them feel threatened - police believe them. Harry says that police behavior has made him feel concerned and anxious - police don't believe him.

Are people who are not trans inherently less trustworthy?

ScapaFlo · 21/11/2019 14:59

This is riveting. Says what I've been saying for a while. The Equality Act 2010 is an Act if Parliament from 2010. No, it hasn't been amended to include either 'transgender' or 'gender identity' as a protected characteristic. No, you can't just rewrite an Act of Parliament to suit your own agenda. Go Judge!

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 21/11/2019 14:58

(That last < > comment is mine.)

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 21/11/2019 14:57

"Counsel - this is a 2010 Act with all Parliamentary agreement. They have decided which characteristics should be protected

Judge - your point is that transgender as identified in CoP guideline is NOT a protected characteristic

Counsel - yes, and thus their assertions that they are acting in accordance with the Equality Act are simply wrong.

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