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Good luck Harry The Owl

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 08:45

Court case today.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop

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TheShoesa · 21/11/2019 18:39

Was it not the Inspector who said 'If you don't like it, sue us!' or words to that effect?

Massive thanks and huge respect to Harry and all at Fair Cop

Angryresister · 21/11/2019 18:38

Brilliant tweets, brilliant judge....with this And Maya’s case it looks as though the push back is now happening. Thank you.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2019 18:37

Harry also said he'd had a call from a police Inspector, didn't he?

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Datun · 21/11/2019 18:34

Ooo this thread is like a party ! 🎂🥂🍾🍷🎊🎉

Thanks Spero !!! ❤️

RedDogsBeg · 21/11/2019 18:29

With regard to the 'chilling effect' and that Harry was harmed by the Police intervention, am I right in recalling that the Police turned up at his work place and insinuated that he would be in trouble with his employers? I seem to recall Harry telling Pc Gul that he owned the company. If I am right there is no more evidence needed to prove the 'chilling effect', and the disgrace of the Police actions.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 21/11/2019 18:26

Geordie I recommend reading the tweets from the live tweeting. I know Harry’s judge commented that it was a court not a theatre but it had all the elements: drama, suspense, comedy...

GeordieTerf · 21/11/2019 18:22

Is there a summary of the events of the passed few days anywhere?

RoyalCorgi · 21/11/2019 18:18

Thanks so much , Spero - ace tweets.

And thanks to the judge for his brilliant combination of legal knowledge and common sense. (Luckily in this case the common sense view coincides with the legal one.)

And what a corker of an editorial from the Telegraph. Never thought I'd say that.

Cuntysnark · 21/11/2019 18:14

Thank you so much. To everyone involved.

Cocolapew · 21/11/2019 18:12

You've been amazing Spero Star

ClosdesMouches · 21/11/2019 18:09

Thank you for the excellent tweeting, Spero.
Also thanks to all at Fair Cop for doing this.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 21/11/2019 18:09

Been following but not commenting on this (and also Maya Forstater's case) and now seems a good time to add my thanks and those of my family, friends and the random workmen currently fitting my new kitchen, to all those involved.

Everyone I have spoken to on this matter in real life is 100% behind you. Never forget that you, not the ridiculous TPAs are in the majority Flowers

RoxytheRexy · 21/11/2019 18:05

Thank you for fantastic tweeting Spero. And a huge well done to Harry and the team. Truly excellent

ProfessorSlocombe · 21/11/2019 18:04

Not even intimidating to enforce actual law, but intimidating, in a partisan way, on behalf of a faction political ideology that has never been in any manifesto and which actively misrepresents British law to its own advantage.[]That's what shocks me the most.

Well it's nothing new. Maybe new to some. But when it was being used against others, there was not a murmur. In fact there was probably a tacit "that's OK then" ...

Part of living in a society is we all have to look out for each other. Always. If we let prejudices allow us to be blind when others are shat on, we shouldn't be surprised when it happens to us.

PurpleHoodie · 21/11/2019 18:00

Thank you Spero

I could have been there today but...'reasons'.

Your Tweeting was SO much better however Flowers

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2019 17:58

@Spero Flowers

I'm also loving the judge!

I understand he's on Twitter - someone should draw his attention to this thread [grn]

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Redshoeblueshoe · 21/11/2019 17:58

Well done Spero Gin

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 21/11/2019 17:56

I may have missed it, but did Mumsnet get a mention? Waves shyly to the Judge, just in case. 😁

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 21/11/2019 17:56

Spero
The live tweeting, talk about skills! Phenomenal 😎
Well done to all at FC.Will be digging tmrw.

APerkyPumpkin · 21/11/2019 17:53

Thanks Spero.
Thanks Harry.
What a ride.

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/11/2019 17:50

Spero Marvellous, marvellous job. Flowers

Fantastic that facts and actual law were spoken and insisted on.

And yes, the police essentially arguing that they have the right to intimidate members of the public is really not a good look.

Not even intimidating to enforce actual law, but intimidating, in a partisan way, on behalf of a faction political ideology that has never been in any manifesto and which actively misrepresents British law to its own advantage.

That's what shocks me the most. And to try and suppress negative evidence.... the police have no business involving themselves in politics or representing and enforcing any one political view. It's incompatible with their job, it's against their own regulations. And to be writing 28 page pages and spending how many hours running around enforcing non sanctions for non crimes against non criminals? While saying they can't attend burglaries and domestic violence call outs?

It beggars belief. I will be sending the final outcomes and links to the court case to my MP, because if he doesn't see this as a bloody shameful thing to have happened on his watch then there is no way I'll vote for him.

thefoothillsofharassment · 21/11/2019 17:45

I’m just delurking to show my appreciation for Harry and Co, and to say thank you for the excellent coverage. Been telling my husband about it all and, having read the Twitter feed, he’s mentioned getting his spade out for a good old dig.

Lordamighty · 21/11/2019 17:41

Those tweets were amazing, I really would have loved to have been there.

GenderfreeJoe · 21/11/2019 17:40

Thank you Spero, your tweets were outstanding ❤️

NotAtMyAge · 21/11/2019 17:40

Having just signed up to the 30 day free trial sub to the Telegraph (which is unlikely to be extended Smile) here is the leader on Harry's case:

Police officers cannot take it upon themselves to act as the custodians of proper opinion

If there is an event that captures the lunacies of modern life, it is a hearing currently taking place in the High Court in London. The case concerns a complaint about allegedly “transphobic” remarks and the police response. Harry Miller, himself a former police officer, tweeted comments about gender that a member of the public reported to Humberside constabulary.

An investigation was carried out and even though Mr Miller was told he had not committed any crime, his activity has been recorded as a hate incident under guidelines set out by the College of Policing, which oversees force standards. It defines a hate event as “any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender”.

Mr Miller is suing the college for suppressing free speech and shutting down legitimate debate about proposed changes in the law on gender recognition. This expansion of Orwellian thought crime must be stopped and reversed. It is unacceptable for the police to take it upon themselves to act as the custodians of what is right and wrong opinion when no criminal behaviour is involved – especially when they claim to be too overstretched to investigate crimes like burglary or drug dealing in broad daylight.

The College of Policing was set up in 2012 as the professional body in England and Wales. Its purpose is “to provide those working in policing with the skills and knowledge necessary to prevent crime, protect the public and secure public trust”. In that case, it is time it focused on what matters to the public – or be replaced by a body that will.