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Artist's talk cancelled for alleged 'transphobia'

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 19/11/2019 23:28

I'm pretty shocked by this. Artist who has dared to 'openly show[ed] support for the "LGB Alliance"' has had her talk at Oxford Brookes cancelled:

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18045416.artists-talk-cancelled-student-outcry-transphobia/?fbclid=IwAR31hfootDZ_VQQ7gNPaYxqr4LyGuYGuc0XY9fGjqO4kEugFWF609A7OzyQ

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lionheart · 23/11/2019 20:57

I'm blocked on the twitter but can get it incognito.

The Yeo works are powerful.

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 20:47

And let's face it, the preoccupation with the perfect female body - and breasts - is probably what many young women are reacting against when they explore trans identities.

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 20:43

Especially as there was a wonderful exhibition by an artist many years ago who had documented women's experiences of Breast cancer, as a way to support the patients through a narrative of common experience and healing.

I felt utter tragedy looking a yeo's stuff knowing of the usefulness and importance of the other artist's work.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 23/11/2019 20:17

Those Yeo paintings are quite sad and disturbing, Neurotrash.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 19:59

Can you post a link to that? I know her.

lionheart · 23/11/2019 19:14

Nina Power, Rachel Ara and, and, and...

'As we see from TERF Dawn Furness’ Green Party Conference motions, transphobic ideas have the potential to have extremely severe political consequences on the lives of trans people.'

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 18:52

Yup.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 18:47

Jonathan Yeo:

www.jonathanyeo.com/surgery

The paint was still wet on the gender reassignment painting when I saw it. Utterly chilling.

There was a painting of a pregnant naked sienna miller there too.

I found the whole exhibition both breathtaking, a comment on the identity of femininity and also slightly misogynistic. But I wasn't sure if that was more that he was holding a mirror up to the inherent misogyny of it all.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 23/11/2019 18:46

It's never going to focus on the work. They're hunting for wrongdoing, guilt by association. The artist in the original post was targeted for following and rerweeting certain social media accounts.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 18:43

Cross post with that last post by lion; agree, garbled shite.

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 18:42

So what's classed as transphobic?

Jenny Savile's recent work?

Jonathan Yeo's surgery series? He claims his double mastectomy 'gender reassignment' painting is less about "vanity and more about identity" but I'm not actually sure what the diff is between vanity and identity when it's about physically changing your body via plastic surgery.

littlbrowndog · 23/11/2019 18:33

What total shite.

Where do they get time or energy or lack of brain usage to write such mind blowing garbage

ScrimshawTheSecond · 23/11/2019 18:22

What utter garbled shit.

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lionheart · 23/11/2019 18:03

Yes.

'If you’re concerned that someone we call out will struggle to find work as a result, this is partly why we call out transphobes: negative bias. The difference is that one - negative bias against someone who has been exposed as a transphobe - is valid, whereas negative bias against trans people because they are trans is not valid. If your concerns about potential loss of work do not apply to trans people as they do to transphobes then your view is either being compromised by transphobia or is purely cognitive dissonance springing from a personal affinity with the person who is being called out.'

Singlewhiteguineapig · 23/11/2019 17:25

What a load of utter shit

lionheart · 23/11/2019 17:14

It goes on:

'We are here to facilitate a rational, proportionate and sensible response to transphobia in the art world. If someone says something transphobic to someone, and then others get wind of this, think negatively of you and don’t want you to be in a position where you might spread transphobia or be able to have a further negative impact on trans people, that’s not that person being “cancelled”, that’s a rational, proportionate and sensible response. This does not preclude redemption or nuance, and it isn’t about punishment. The aim is not to destroy a person but to remove them from situations where they may adversely affect the lives and rights of trans people. It’s also important to note that this is not solely about pushing for transphobes to face immediate, concrete consequences, but also making trans people working or participating in the art world aware of who may pose a direct or indirect threat to themselves.'

lionheart · 23/11/2019 17:12

More from the statement:

'In this statement, we want to explain who runs the TERFs Out of Art Twitter account, why we set it up, what its motives and purposes are, how it operates, and why. To get the simple questions out of the way, this account is overseen by a group of trans people and cis women, working together to further our mission. It was set up recently to tackle a burning issue in the art world and beyond - the toxic presence of transphobia, particularly, but not limited to, TERFs'

ScrimshawTheSecond · 23/11/2019 16:26

women's art was one of the few things I enjoyed on Twitter before sacking the whole endeavour.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 23/11/2019 15:58

I agree women's art is great to follow.

This is appalling. I thought the new guidelines created for universities around freedom of speech expressly ruled against such actions?

"Terfs our of art," run by a man. Could there be any more misogyny there?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 23/11/2019 15:40

"Terfs out of art"
Nice
I wonder which cowardly bully is behind that disgusting account? Bet the Monitors would know!

lionheart · 23/11/2019 15:28

The language in the statement is really something.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 23/11/2019 12:16

Redemption, eh. Not at all like a quasi-religious cult that threatens non-believers and apostates.

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lionheart · 23/11/2019 11:02

I'll just pop this down here if I may?

#WomensArt is fantastic

for anyone with a Twitter account who loves to see all kinds of women's art from across the globe and through the ages (including all manner of astonishing crafts). Star

I've followed this account for a while and it so often delivers something beautiful, or arresting, or new to my twitter feed.

Well worth a look and follow. Smile

#WomensArt@womensart1 has also been targeted by Terfsoutofart:

Some snippets from their rather lengthy 'statement of intent.'

'In order to achieve its objectives, the account focuses on preventing transphobia from shaping or contributing to cultural and critical discourse and the operations of the art world and beyond, as we believe that can only perpetuate the systemic marginalisation of trans people within the arts, which is a human rights violation. We aim to achieve this by thoroughly researching and exposing figures who promote and act on transphobia in the art world, and contacting those who may inadvertently provide them with an opportunity to do so in order to prevent it.'

I suspect some of the people who post on here might be in need of 'redemption' so this document will be particularly helpful to you.

'Often there are countless trans people telling us, with proof, that a person has abused them for being trans, and that this person has time and again had the opportunity to make things right and to learn and grow, and has refused it. There comes a point where one has to accept that a transphobe has had all of the good faith, all of the information, all of the opportunities to learn and grow and make right, and still has chosen to continue either consciously or unconsciously promoting transphobia. That is the point where the importance of acting on the potential danger to trans people that that person presents outweighs the importance of acting on the person’s potential capacity for redemption. That is the point at which a public call-out, for accountability and harm reduction, needs to come.'

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