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Caroline Farrow denied boarding with valid ESTA

111 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 19/11/2019 14:54

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1196785133342334976?s=20

"I went to board my flight today, having had my ESTA approved online. I have not been allowed to board because my ESTA has been withdrawn and nobody in the US Embassy or at Homeland security can give me a reason why. I have to apply to the embassy."

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AlunWynsKnee · 20/11/2019 00:22

I don't believe Caroline's views on abortion or religion are out of step with the Republican party's mainstream ideology. Or indeed legislation in the US. So it must be something else.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 20/11/2019 00:12

I will be writing again to the GMC tomorrow.

And, bizarrely, to Donald Trump Jnr.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/11/2019 23:37

Yep, what Floral said. Indulging the urge to strike out at perceived enemies of vindictive people is a very bad idea, and we're now seeing what happens when those people get what they want the first time and become emboldened.

OvaHere · 19/11/2019 23:35

Spot on Floral

FloralBunting · 19/11/2019 23:30

It's an escalation, which is obviously being perpetrated by abusive nutjobs, but the fact that it is an escalation is laid squarely at the door of the authorities, who have acted in an outrageously lax manner while this behaviour was at a (relatively speaking) less intense pitch. They have essentially given the green light to these people that they may behave as they wish, and push further and further, and it's quite clear that escalation through even more boundaries was always going to happen.

bettybeans · 19/11/2019 23:24

So technically anyone could report some random tweet as one of these vague 'hate crimes' and have an individual prevented from obtaining visas for travel? Wtf. If this is a new tactic it's an absolutely crazy one.

Carowiththegoodhair · 19/11/2019 23:18

Here’s what I suspect happened.

ESTA approved. I have confirmation on 6th November. Stalkers report me to the police for something or other and tip off embassy that I am being investigated. ESTA withdrawn.

Bobs your auntie and Fanny your uncle.

Truly woeful.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/11/2019 23:03

Why are the authorities (in this case an embassy) helping individuals who appear to have personality disorders persecute whichever people are unfortunate enough to have been fixated on?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 19/11/2019 22:56

Excuse crap grammar. It's been a long day!

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 19/11/2019 22:56

That's terrifying. Utterly chilling. As was the Kathleen Stock thread yesterday.

Dystopian fiction has been written that features less frightening and insidious methods of coercion, silencing and control than those exhibited on these two threads.

Seeing what happens to those who stand up and fight this stuff is sobering. One simple 'misstep' (in the activists' subjective view) and they won't be satisfied until they've completely destroyed that person's life by effectively silencing them, restricting their movements and ending their career. And it's working. People are seeing what's been happening to the people who have attempted to debate this issue openly, and intimidated a great many of them into silence.

And the authorities are complicit. It's unbelievable. And yet, sadly, entirely believable.

HarrietTheFly · 19/11/2019 22:51

Even if harrop had no involvement in this, his "jokes" are completely inappropriate. Is he actually a real doctor? I would not feel comfortable with this man treating me or my child.

ChattyLion · 19/11/2019 22:38

The GMC have unambiguous guidance about social media behaviour for doctors:

www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/doctors-use-of-social-media

‘65. You must make sure that your conduct justifies your patients’ trust in you and the public’s trust in the profession.’

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/11/2019 22:33

According to Caroline on twitter it would appear that complaints may have been made to the police in the last week, and then these complaints reported to the embassy.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 19/11/2019 22:29

Someone on KF rather magnificently nicknamed him Squealer a while back. Can't see him as anything else now tbh.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 19/11/2019 21:43

This is extremely alarming.

BadgertheBodger · 19/11/2019 21:31

This is fucking outrageous Shock

AH has obviously lost the plot entirely if he thinks this is a) funny, b) appropriate and c) completely totally fine to publicly tweet under his own name.

Even if this is nothing to do with him or his cronies, showing yourself up to be quite such a spiteful gloating fucker is quite the embarrassment. Caro take care Flowers

PronounssheRa · 19/11/2019 21:26

It strikes me that Caroline is being targeted because of her religious beliefs.

I would be tempted to report all involved or suspected to be involved in this harassment to the police as hate incidents/hate crime. It might help focus minds.

Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police. Evidence of the hate element is not a requirement

www.merseyside.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/hco/hate-crime/what-is-hate-crime/

This is beyond creepy stalky behaviour.

Lysistrataknowsherstuff · 19/11/2019 21:18

It doesn't take much for the US to revoke a visa - even ridiculous allegations will do. A few years ago there was that Gossip Girl actress, Kelly something, whose legal team told the state dept that her German STBXH was an arms dealer: visa revoked and deported. It would probably only take a phone call with a spurious allegation for a visa to be revoked.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/11/2019 21:02

Wow we're under a lot of scrutiny tonight

Doobigetta · 19/11/2019 20:57

This is appalling. There must be someone who can get this little shit stopped, surely.

MoltenLasagne · 19/11/2019 20:38

Are there consequences for false representation of the sort that seems to have happened here? Is it defamation or slander of some sort? Beyond the obvious harassment of course.

What particularly concerns me is the clear pattern of escalation. There are a number of activists that have been getting away with terrible behaviour in clear view for over a year now. The lack of consequences has made them feel invincible and up the ante.

Campervan69 · 19/11/2019 20:24

Wow. That's all kinds of messed up.

HavelockVetinari · 19/11/2019 20:23

I'm sorry this happened @Carowiththegoodhair my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Also - sue the fucker for harrassment! Angry

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/11/2019 20:17

Scary Jehovah’s Witnesses?