Caroline Farrow denied boarding with valid ESTA

Caro, have you gotten to the bottom of this at all?

There ate a whole bunch of topics that society needs to be able to discuss openly, respectfully and constructively. Abortion is one (early, late, rape, disability etc). Surrogacy, euthanasia, gender identification (medication and consent, NHS role, single sex spaces, spousal veto etc etc) are others.

Caroline is one brave woman, and is consistent in her views. Many won't agree with on everything but the debate itself helps confirm our own thinking. Concepts of right think and wrong think have no role in a democratic society.

The irony is that Caroline's worldview sits more comfortably in the US than the UK. The treatment she has received here is appalling. I may not agree, but I have to admire.

I disagree very strongly with Caroline on most issues but this is disgusting stuff. And the authorities have totally let her down. I wish I knew what we could do

is this related to harry's case wrt secret recording at police of 'hate incidents'?

Also there's a strong element of empathy because who knows why angry misogynists fixate on the particular woman that they do? It could be any of us, really. And that's why any time this kind of situation happens I will always be on the woman's side.

Yes, I suppose I will have to put in a fucking disclaimer that the disturbed bullying men in reference in my post are male bodied individuals that identify with the male gender.

And before any eager little readers report the above comment let me point out that Harrop and the other person who was gloating about getting Caroline's ESTA revoked are men, with no declared trans identity at all. Who are bullying a woman.

I mean, on one side you have a woman who I disagree with on some key issues that are important to me, but whom I would feel perfectly comfortable sitting down over a cup of tea to discuss those issues with. On the other side you have a bunch of men who I'm rather afraid that if I tried that might knock my teeth out before trying to get me sacked/arrested.

Yes, this is it isn't it?

I mean, on one side you have a woman who I disagree with on some key issues that are important to me, but whom I would feel perfectly comfortable sitting down over a cup of tea to discuss those issues with. On the other side you have a bunch of men who I'm rather afraid that if I tried that might knock my teeth out before trying to get me sacked/arrested. And the people in group B are also trying to make it impossible to define what a woman is in law, which would make any laws and institutions currently in place to protect women and our rights null and void.

Pretty easy choice in terms of who to support really.

Yes, Caro has some views which differ significantly from Radical Feminists. I don't agree with her on everything and I'm every bit as Catholic as she is. But the way I see it, your feminism is pretty bunk if you side with bullying, disturbed men over women who you disagree with on some things. Because that's what we're talking about here. So I'll take the pointless little canard about being 'right wing' if I disagree with a woman being harassed and persecuted in her daily life, and ask what is 'left wing' about supporting it, tbh.

WOW. This is crazy.

It terrifies me that this person (whether involved in the esta being revoked or not) is clearly totally surrounded by people both IRL and online who he is certain won’t have any issue with his tweets. He is so confident that he will face no consequences for those tweets that it tells me he won’t- why is that? They ALL agree with him? Does he have some immense dirt on lots of people? Is he the son of God??? Why is this person so absolutely certain that he is untouchable? He didn’t come to that conclusion alone.

It's an escalation, which is obviously being perpetrated by abusive nutjobs, but the fact that it is an escalation is laid squarely at the door of the authorities, who have acted in an outrageously lax manner while this behaviour was at a (relatively speaking) less intense pitch. They have essentially given the green light to these people that they may behave as they wish, and push further and further, and it's quite clear that escalation through even more boundaries was always going to happen.

Absolutely this. Every play is straight from the domestic abuse handbook enacted on a societal scale.

That is a brilliant insight, Womb.

They do this to put radical feminists in a bind.

We can either abandon the women this happens to, and split a coalition, or we can stand up for the right of women to have political opinions (even ones we disagree with very much, even anti-feminist ones!) and be painted as in bed with the right wing.

It's one of those fun "woman-choices," where the dominant class has already created the choice-space, and any selection in it yields a way to dismiss us.

Some people may find this link useful. I will be using it myself later today.

www.gmc-uk.org/about/get-involved/complaints-and-feedback-about-our-service/how-to-raise-complaint

There is something seriously wrong with those men gloating and goading on Twitter. Even the founder and CEO of an anti bullying charity felt the need to laugh his arse off at Carolines expense.

And yes, "gleefully vindictive" is really not a quality that most people look for in their GP.

RE Harrop, is that not an admission that he's often less than honest? That being said (by him, not us, please note) why should anyone believe anything else he has to say?

The thought of Harrop being a GP is terrifying. He is just so gleeful in his gaslighting and bullying while thinking he's so subtle that no-one will notice what he is.

Can you imagine the damage he could do to vulnerable patients.

It definately shows a particular mindset.

So now of course, Harrop is claiming that of course he has nothing to do with it (what a ridiculous suggestion) and that is is of course a stock photo and of course he has been at work 200 miles away all day.

Which is more than likely true. But he just couldn't resist the opportunity for a hit of gaslighting could he? Posting about his 'important diplomatic business' on the same day that someone he has targeted numerous times because they have different views from him is stopped from travelling to America. Prick.

This very much reminds me of McKinnon's dancing on grave give when Magdalen Berns died, and then claiming that obviously it's to celebrate Friday 13th. Yeah right.

I have said it before but I have found this whole thing eye opening. I have never really been victim of any kind of abuse, control, gaslighting etc from the men in my life. To see exactly what it looks like in real life, in real time, from these people is such a revelation.

Am wondering if this individual is banking on the GMC investigation never being able to finish...

Don’t forget that there’s the Fair Cop hearing coming up shortly which will determine if thought crimes can be recorded on people’s records. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s connected to this as right now the police’s position is that hate crimes with no action taken are recorded, absolutely nothing to prevent false allegations being made and then noted.

Caro, do the police have to notify you that you are being investigated? If yes, do they have to do it within a specific time frame?

I am quite certain that you have been targeted and that this constitutes harassment. There is clearly a pattern of behaviour here designed to cause you distress or alarm. Would you be willing to report the harassment to the police and possibly seek a restraining order through the courts?