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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Gender' required to enter a race

35 replies

NewNameGuy · 18/11/2019 15:00

New name frequent poster.

I was entering an event and saw the classic "gender" box.

My emails with the organisers:

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IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 18/11/2019 15:54

The reason we ask about gender is to do with listing results and giving prizes which has always been done in accordance with age and gender in athletics.

Well that’s rubbish isn’t it? It’s always been age and sex!

I suspect person believes gender is sex. You should correct them.

JellySlice · 18/11/2019 15:50

Given this:

We are happy for you to chose the category which you are comfortable with being in for the purpose of entering the race.

Why not enter in the correct Veterans Class for your sex? So, if you're 20s, enter, say, the 65+ class. After all, having kids can make you feel ancient.

JellySlice · 18/11/2019 15:48

""I'm confused. I thought listing results and giving prizes has always been done in accordance with age and sex in athletics, in order to ensure a fair competition."

CranberriesChoccy · 18/11/2019 15:46

Maybe it's not a bad thing that this is becoming more common. More people will start seeing the problems with the whole self-id situation.

Many people are largely unaware of what's been happening. If I wasn't part of discussion boards I'd likely be the same way.

Smaller events won't have any kind of rule where you must live as the gender you identify with for 2 years prior or any hormone level testing (not that those things make it any fairer for women in sport). It is wide open for piss-taking and abuse. And they will abuse it.

CadburysTastesVileNow · 18/11/2019 15:14

Yep, no reason for a 21 year old not to play on the veterans' tennis circuit, surely?

NotTerfNorCis · 18/11/2019 15:14

So they're saying male people can enter the women's race.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 18/11/2019 15:12

The reason we ask about gender is to do with listing results and giving prizes which has always been done in accordance with age and gender in athletics. Something that (perhaps) should be moved away from in the future!

"Hi, thanks for your response. Are the age classes also open to anyone based on which age category they feel most comfortable in?"

NewNameGuy · 18/11/2019 15:03

What do I reply? I'm not sure whether to blow my cover now (save women's sports etc) or keep asking stupid questions and let them tie themselves in knots.

"I'm a man but feel feminine and want a trophy so I'll enter the female class, thanks!"

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NewNameGuy · 18/11/2019 15:01

Reply
Thanks for getting in touch. Unfortunately our system at the moment does not have the ability to add any additional options or ask extra questions in relation to sub sectional information regarding gender identity. We provide the category of nonbinary for anyone who does not identify as their own sex specific class or as male or female. We are happy for you to chose the category which you are comfortable with being in for the purpose of entering the race.

The reason we ask about gender is to do with listing results and giving prizes which has always been done in accordance with age and gender in athletics. Something that (perhaps) should be moved away from in the future! We really appreciate you getting in touch with us and hope to see you at one of our races soon!

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NewNameGuy · 18/11/2019 15:01

Me
I'm entering a race with you and have a question for you on the "gender" option.

You ask Male/ female/ non binary

Are you interested in Sex (ie you have sex specific classes?)
Or gender identity?

I want to make sure I enter the right class!

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