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Prince Andrew 'let the side down'

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Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2019 03:48

Here's a clip from Prince Andrew's interview where he regrets remaining friends with Epstein after his conviction because he let the royal family down. Not a single mention of Epstein's victims and how they were let down.

He also does not recall meeting Virginia Giuffre, despite the photos saying otherwise.

I can't believe he did any interview in the first place, but surely he is digging an even bigger hole for himself here.

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MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 15:50

Only black mark in Anne's book is her enthusiastic support for fox-hunting, badger-gassing, and in all liklihood mole-strangling.

Gingerkittykat · 16/11/2019 14:38

It looks like Charles also had a friendship with a sex offender, although he at least had the decency to say his thoughts were with the victims of abuse and there are no allegations he ever abused someone.

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CarolCutrere · 16/11/2019 14:35

I like the way Anne did not accept any Ruritarian style titles for either of her husbands or her children. Her children also seemed able to get married without incurring vast public expense.

Re Andrew and that photograph,his team has been trying to discredit it. I thought their attempts were pathetic and why take so long to raise the fact it might have been photo shopped but the more I look at I'm now wondering if it does look odd. I can't decide if that is a genuine feeling or if fake doubts have been sown. It surely can't be that difficult for Virginia Roberts to provide information about its provenance.

TiddlerontheRoof · 16/11/2019 14:18

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koshkat · 16/11/2019 14:15

Always rather liked Zara Phillips and think that Princess Anne is one of the good uns.

flapjackfairy · 16/11/2019 12:28

Yes what has Anne done ?

CarolCutrere · 16/11/2019 12:22

The Queen and Prince Philip have produced four very disfunctional children

That's very unfair to Princess Anne.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 16/11/2019 12:20

'Too honourable'. That's about the last of this creep's worries.

Jux · 16/11/2019 12:17

He was always rather repugnant, and dim about how people viewed him. Clearly, he hasn't learnt much.

I second what pinkprosseco said. Face it properly, you nasty little twerp. Show us a bit of real "tendency to be too honourable". What an odious phrase.

MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 10:15

He's not a dimwit. He qualified as a helicopter pilot. That requires tons of swotting and revision and three-dimensional situational awareness, brain in full multitasking mode such as few people can manage.

koshkat · 16/11/2019 10:14

He actually makes my skin crawl. And the way he laughs...WTAF? There is much more to come and he is trying to get ahead of it through this interview where he cannot even deny it convincingly.

Sickening example of arrogance, privilege and entitlement to whatever he wants.

Terfnserf · 16/11/2019 10:00

I think he is an odious little creep but that photo does look odd, as if they were both in different locations when it was taken.

SophoclesTheFox · 16/11/2019 09:59

Exactly what I thought, mockers

There’s an obvious end to the sentence “I have no recollection of that”...and that is “because, honestly, it happened so often, I can’t possibly remember any one specific young woman I used my power and position to exploit”.

MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 09:27

The word is he'd be toast but no one dares raising it with Queenie, so he hangs on.

Anyway, so many trafficked girls in Maxwell's flat, he can't be expected to remember them all.

pinkprosseco · 16/11/2019 08:52

If Prince Andrew wants to set the record straight there's a way of doing this, called the criminal justice system.
He should not be abusing his privileged position to access national media to circumvent a proper investigation. Not many other people have this opportunity.
He should face justice like anyone else.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 16/11/2019 08:49

Even if he is telling the truth and has no recollection of the girl in question, the lack of an outright denial suggests that he feels he can't deny that his lifestyle around that time means that there is at least a possibility that the girl's story is true.

In the circumstances his response was probably the least damning answer he could muster.

The careful phrasing and 'honest Joe' good eye contact stare - perhaps practised in the mirror - reminded me of Bill Clinton and his infamous 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' moment.

Windygate · 16/11/2019 08:46

The Queen and Prince Philip have produced four very disfunctional children. I can't see the Royal Family surviving in its current set up once the Queen has died.

HotCrossPun1 · 16/11/2019 08:27

Are royals really above the law? It’s outrageous if it’s true.

atankofskunks · 16/11/2019 08:18

Just watched it too and it turned my stomach. He would have been better off not doing the interview at all. He comes across like a total sleaze and I agree 100% that he is guilty as charged. Not that he ever will be. The best bet now for the royals is to distance themselves from him completely.

SophoclesTheFox · 16/11/2019 08:14

“Let the side down”, FFS.

That’s not quite how I would describe hanging out with a convicted sex offender (they stayed friends after Epstein’s 2008 conviction for paying a 14 year old girl to be allowed to rape her) and his stable of exploited young women and girls.

Honour, for actual fucks sake. He thought it was honourable to back his sex offender friend. You only think that if you yourself don’t think there’s anything wrong with what Epstein did.

Sick.

Coldwatershock · 16/11/2019 08:07

The royal family are immune; he is not going to subject to the usual scrutiny and process, and will get away with this. His public role is relatively minor, and he will continue to benefit financially from his status. It's outrageous. (I'm a republican and this just shows how the normal rules don't apply, as per Prince Charles' political meddling)...

HotCrossPun1 · 16/11/2019 08:02

Whether he has recollection or not...the photograph is as lily says damming.

Is the photo mentioned in the interview does anyone know? How does he explain that away?

lilypoppet · 16/11/2019 07:59

Just in case more solid evidence emerges, he has to say "l have no recollection". Also, the photograph is damming. He is.lying. He knows what he did.

HotCrossPun1 · 16/11/2019 07:55

I just can’t understand why the police aren’t doing more to investigate all of this including Epstein’s death which seems to have raised questions. Or maybe they are 🤷‍♀️ but everything about this seems to be left hanging.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 16/11/2019 07:50

Can anyone explain what he thinks he means by saying that staying with Epstein was the "honourable thing to do"? I don't understand the way he's interpreting honour there Confused

And then when he said that that was his problem - he was too honourable Hmm What a crock of shit.