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Posie Parker on Triggernometry

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Childrenofthestones · 15/11/2019 22:03

Posie in discussion titled "Trans women are men" with Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin on their YT show Triggernometry.
This is a promo clip, the full show goes out Sunday evening.

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HazzaTheOwl · 16/12/2019 13:20

I listened to her on the way to do my own interview with them. She's an inspiration.

Triggerpod · 16/12/2019 12:07

We just interviewed Rose of Dawn, a trans YouTuber in the aftermath of this.

Check it out:

Datun · 29/11/2019 00:31

Indeed he was. Splutteringly accusing women of appropriating the word woman.

🤣

ooooohbetty · 28/11/2019 21:39

@Datun you're right, I bloody loved it. Dr Harrop was a tad intense/mad wasn't he? GrinGrin

Ereshkigal · 28/11/2019 20:09

Majestic Wine

Datun · 28/11/2019 19:23

Never Grin

littlbrowndog · 28/11/2019 19:01

My favourite ever datun

Never gets old 📣

Datun · 28/11/2019 18:47

ooooohbetty

If you liked that, you're going to love this.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=2G4IhPncF3w

ooooohbetty · 28/11/2019 18:43

I listened to the podcast. I'd never heard of her. Brilliant. She says what I've been thinking for ages.

Backinthecloset123 · 28/11/2019 18:30

270 thousand views and climbing. Their most viewed interview by miles.

I love this woman. She is truly charismatic and straight talking. No fucks given. It took me a while to get used to her non pandering to the ideology - it's been so long I've had to tip toe around I'm not used to it.

I hope the women who threw her under a bus last year have a wee think.

Posie WineFlowers

DuMondeB · 27/11/2019 09:48

The Streisand effect.

Posie has now been discussed in two Triggernometry live streams.

Rose of Dawn has taped an interview (Rose isn’t GC but is outspoken against trans radical ideology and believes that trans is a medical condition that needs proper diagnosis and that pronouns cannot be demanded. This is the ‘Truscum’ position. Also known as What We All Used To Think Of As Trans before the world went nuts).

Rose isn’t afraid of discussing the worst of the trans activists behaviour (Rachel McKinnon, J Yaniv, Jess Bradley) so should be interesting.

Watched the Laurence Fox episode yesterday. Mostly agreed with him and he solidified my thoughts that a society that works for women has to work for men too. Like other mammals, we mostly live in mixed sex groups. Need a better system for dealing with predators though, eh?

Anyway, should you still be reading this, please point Laurence at www.theeatonfoundation.uk/ - he’d be a great fundraiser/awareness raiser for them.

Can’t resist the (idpol) opportunity to point out that Laurence is best known for being Billie Piper’s ex husband, and that the Eaton foundation CEO is Dr Jessica Taylor* (also known as Dr Jessica Eaton)’s husband 🤗

(Pointless internet celebrity fact of the day, Fox and I both have work from the same tattooer)

fidgetspinner555 · 27/11/2019 08:56

This video has now got over 200k views, well over their others. I'm loving the fact it's got so many and from the comments most people feel the same as Posie.

OhHolyJesus · 26/11/2019 12:05

Or does it mean you break it down further...

Only transwomen who have genuine gender dysmorphia should play on the girls team or compete against other women.

Ok, how do you measure genuine gender dysmorphia?

Well if they really really feel like a woman, like a lot, for a long time and act like a woman

Ok what is acting like a woman?

Oh you know thinking like a woman and dressing like a woman

Ok what is thinking like a woman?

...and so it goes round and round.

We cannot separate AGPs from the sex offenders from the trans people who are really suffering at the entrance of the women's toilets. We have only a few seconds to assess how safe or unsafe we are. On the sports field it's pretty obvious who will win and why and in all this we have to pander to someone else's level of comfort?

That's a lot of responsibility on women. How about the men shoulder some of this?

Lamahaha · 26/11/2019 11:46

My thanks to those who stamped their size 9s to demand YouTube remove the Trigger video. As usual, such totalitatian tactics have had the opposite impact to the one intended and enabled Posie to gain more exposure.

Censorship worked so well for Lady Chatterly's Lover, didn't it! Grin

LangCleg · 26/11/2019 11:32

The fact that you don't believe they should be on the sports field, means you don't really believe they are women.

Indeed. It means you believe you get to command women as to the extent they must accept the "identities" of humans who aren't women.

NeurotrashWarrior · 26/11/2019 11:16

Thread but don't know how long it will
Last.

The Guardian... Blind Date 23 November www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3753214-The-Guardian-Blind-Date-23-November

NeurotrashWarrior · 26/11/2019 11:16

I guess they have to flip it and imagine a how a gay man would react to going on a blind date with a trans man for a national newspaper but not being told about it before hand.

That's when pennies start to drop...

Oh wait!

twitter.com/laraadamsmille1/status/1199131446134411264?s=21

ScreamingBeans · 25/11/2019 22:39

That was brilliant I really enjoyed it.

I found the cognitive dissonance of those 2 guys very funny - the fact that they seem to have some sympathy with the idea that you can be born in "the wrong body" (which when it was first used was supposed to be a figurative description of how it felt to have this type of dysphoria, not an actual literal medical diagnosis) while at the same time recognising that whether that body was wrong or not, it still shouldn't be on the same playing field as a female athlete with a woman's body.

But if you believe that transwomen are women, then of course they should be in all the same places as all other women. The fact that you don't believe they should be on the sports field, means you don't really believe they are women.

Or you believe that they are a particular type of woman different from all other women. But then my question would be, what is a woman? What makes them women and what makes me a woman? What makes Posie a woman? What makes India a woman like (or unlike) Posie?

And why do men think that getting rid of your cock means you're no longer a man? Men, sort this out. There isn't a woman out there who believes that a hysterectomy means women are no longer women, but men seem to have this very dick-centred view of what being a man is.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 25/11/2019 18:05

Watched it. Posie was outstanding, I thought, and the interviewers had done their homework.
I didn't think they were particularly hard on her.

KettlePolly · 25/11/2019 13:57

I've just watched it again. It's so good. Just cuts through so much of the obfuscation and hand waving and she really does succinctly explain why pronouns are the "thin end of the wedge."

Melroses · 25/11/2019 10:07

Yes - the public is hearing so much stand by your transwoman at the moment, it would be good explore the issue from a different non glossy perspective.

NeurotrashWarrior · 25/11/2019 09:53

After just listening to Christine Jardine (LibDem) on r4 about 6.53am gaslighting listeners, I'd like triggernometry to interview tinselangel.

I imagine she wouldn't want to be identified but these interviews need to happen.

TigersMotownandcars · 24/11/2019 23:01

I'ld like Konstantin to explain why women are required to be kind and accommodating at women's own expense, emotionally, psychologically and physically. Why aren't men telling the TRA's to be kind and considerate? Why do trans identified xy people's feelings matter more? Im out of kind accommodating compassion when TRA's give traumatized women absolutely none, bullying their way into our bathrooms, shelters and healthcare.

At least you gave Posey a platform, if not the fawning reception given to most every other guest.

DuMondeB · 24/11/2019 21:47

I’d deffo like to see her on Joe Rogan. Or perhaps Megan Murphy.

Backinthecloset123 · 24/11/2019 21:32

I'm loving the coverage Posie is getting. Next: Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan, or some such person with millions of followers.

I'm on her side way more than those feminists who shat on her, calling her racist, islamaphobic, and such.