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Shall we start a feminist think tank?

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Newuser123123 · 15/11/2019 11:58

There's lots of clever, knowledgeable women on here. Perhaps we could have a space for gathering research, ideas and policy proposals?

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Newuser123123 · 16/11/2019 11:48

I agree some key statements would be good. We need to make sure our research is impeccable and our messages are calm and rational.
We want to make sure we cannot be dismissed as hysterical, bigoted etc.
We need to persuade people to listen to us, and agree with us without fear of losing their jobs.

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Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 16/11/2019 11:43

MN just swallowed my post.

I’m imagining a think tank as a Network for discussion and ideas, a repository for evidence & research, and a powerful lobbying force.

I think it might be helpful to agree a short list of clear and simple statements to use in conversations and online discussions, so that for example, if we are commenting under a newspaper article we are emphasising and repeating key messages.

We need the public to be clear that transwomen are biological males, that transwomen commit crime at the same rate as other biological males and that most transwomen still have intact male genitalia.

Newuser123123 · 16/11/2019 11:33

Feels like that bit in Handmaid's tale where June picks out people who will be useful for the resistance!

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FinallyHere · 16/11/2019 11:19

Putting my hand up: I too work in Tech, very happy to support the efforts.

XXCoffeeHoneyBread · 16/11/2019 11:11

You have my axe.

Another highly effective Scottish group is murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/ and there is wgscotland.org.uk/.

And don't forget www.transgendertrend.com/.

I think it is good to have each group working on one specific policy or item to keep focus and manage aggressive kick back.

I am concerned about scientifically misleading and inaccurate media making it's way to children via books/tv/lesson plans/policy etc. I think schools, programmers and publishers have a responsibility to ensure safe passage through adolescence. "Wrong body" is a dangerous fib.

Most urgent though is the total absence of a political party who recognises the rights of women and girls and is not actively working to crush our necks beneath their boot.

Newuser123123 · 16/11/2019 10:47

Great ideas re trello and slack. My husband uses both for work so he can help too.

I will contact the other groups mentioned above to sound them out and make sure we're filling a gap.

As a first piece of legislation we could look at the GRA?

Disclaimer I am not an expert so please bear with me if I say something stupid!

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Skade · 16/11/2019 10:39

I am politically homeless nowadays, and would love to be involved. I'm a counsellor and so have a lot of opinions on so-called conversion therapy and the BACPs views on treating adolescents with gender dysphoria, as well as being active on Twitter around other sex-based rights issues.

artisanparsnips · 16/11/2019 10:35

we can combine trello and slack for task management and comms, fine Smile

artisanparsnips · 16/11/2019 10:33

I'm an ex media researcher/producer who has also done social media and communications in politics at a local level. I also write things, so good at churning out reports.

I will look at Trello - we have used Slack before which was also free and I had a love/hate relationship with.

Some things I think we would need to think about:

  • contacting a range of interesting women (eg. GC lawyers and writers as well as 'famous' people to be involved and give it some heft. For all I know they may be on here already
  • working out a funding source. There will be one, or we crowdfund an initial stage in order to access further funding

What else?

NoCurrentConvictions · 16/11/2019 09:57

Would a Trello board help to organise the work?
I’ve not actually used it before but heard it’s really useful for this sort of project, the demo looks good and it seems to be free....

help.trello.com/article/899-getting-started-video-demo

PerkingFaintly · 16/11/2019 09:56

It's going to be like that scene in Borgen where they invite loads of people in, cover dozens of flipcharts, and then start shooing people out to whittle it down to something achievable and focussed.Smile

jamrollyolly · 16/11/2019 09:41

I'm in! Thank you for starting something so positive that we can work towards, as there are so many politically homeless women on here.

FinallyHere · 16/11/2019 09:35

reformed Tory sidles in, hoping to find understanding for her former misdemeanours (former economics student)

BlackeyedSusan · 16/11/2019 09:24

Female only spaces could cover lots of areas, hospitals, medical appointments, changing rooms in sport, shops, etc.

BlackeyedSusan · 16/11/2019 09:22

So what are the most important issues to you?

What issues are being covered well by other groups?

Does one go for a single issue to fill the gap between other groups mentioned or go for a broader remit.

I have a feeling too broad and it will start too many arguements and be ineffective.

YoungHun · 16/11/2019 09:16

I'm in

everybodypuuuullllll · 16/11/2019 08:48

For Women Scotland

Also, what are the other Scottish groups called?

everybodypuuuullllll · 16/11/2019 08:46

I don't think you can name a think tank after a person who's alive without that person being the figurehead or having a significant role.

Imagine if someone named a think tank after you but you had no actual say or control over what they did. That would be a bit weird wouldn't it?!

If you want to recognise Maya's hugely important contribution perhaps ask her to get involved?

Newuser123123 · 16/11/2019 08:33

OK brilliant, a really good mix of people, all of your views and experiences will be important, the broader the mix, the more authority we have.

Perhaps the first step is seeing what already exists to make sure we're not duplicating efforts. Does anyone know of any other organisations with similar aims, other than :
Women's place UK (or is it woman's?)
Fairplay for women
Safer schools alliance uk
Lgb alliance

I would then suggest we start looking at policies in order of importance to us, and start to think through positive, practical solutions that ensure safety, dignity and respect for all.

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TheTrickyWitch · 16/11/2019 08:10

I'm in and am a GP so useful for medical stuff I hope. Time poor but will contribute on any way I can.

LiterallyProblematic · 16/11/2019 08:07

No skills but definitely in

NeurotrashWarrior · 16/11/2019 06:20

I'm involved in some research of sorts at the mo, I don't have much time to give due to general life and women but absolutely can offer ideas or comment when associated with my areas.

HarrietTheFly · 16/11/2019 02:39

I'm poor and not well connected but I've been following this debate for the last 5 years and would be happy to help and lend support in any way I can.

Fallingirl · 16/11/2019 02:28

I’m in too. I know next to nothing about lobbying, but am fairly good at research and stringing arguments together.

SorryAuntLydia · 16/11/2019 01:17

Ex professional lobbyist and public affairs adult human female breaking cover and reporting for duty

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