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Shall we start a feminist think tank?

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Newuser123123 · 15/11/2019 11:58

There's lots of clever, knowledgeable women on here. Perhaps we could have a space for gathering research, ideas and policy proposals?

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Newuser123123 · 27/01/2020 13:15

Hi, anyone who wants the link to the trello board please dm me x

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RicketyLangClegety · 27/01/2020 12:47

Me too please @midclegs

midclegs · 27/01/2020 11:06

Newuser have DM-ed you.

MrsSnippyPants · 27/01/2020 10:40

And me. PM if there is something going on, I have time to write letters etc. and I am already involved in a couple of things.

midcenturylegs · 27/01/2020 10:20

Hello - bumping and enquiring - did this ever get off the ground? Keen to engage..

PJsatMidday · 20/12/2019 23:27

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Newuser123123 · 19/12/2019 11:16

Bumping in case anyone else wants to join.

Our initial activities will be letter writing and consultation responses. I'd like to do something in support of Maya and the Scottish GRA reforms.

If you're waiting on a response for me please feel free to chase as the DMs on here aren't that easy to navigate.

Thanks

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OhHolyJesus · 06/12/2019 16:45

Ah ok perfect (phew!) and what a good New Years resolution to have!

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Newuser123123 · 06/12/2019 14:39

@OhHolyJesus I'm not expecting anything from anyone until after Christmas (myself included 😂😭) we can make this a new year's resolution!

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OhHolyJesus · 06/12/2019 14:08

But aside from this what can we do?

Could we add one for language or women (what it means) in law?

The Detransitioner Advocacy Network is a good one too

I promise I'll get onto Trello this weekend OP. Work and childcare screws up my diary too!

It's actually reassuring how many orgs there are who are focused on all the relevant areas .

(I also like Nordic Model Now and Object Now for Prostitution and Surrogacy.)

Tootsweets23 · 06/12/2019 13:40

Thanks Newuser!

I don't work in academia, however I'm conscious that there are many times we've seen research being rejected or shutdown. Is this a space a feminist think tank could try to fill?

There are so many things I'd love to know the stats on or areas that need more study and research. I'm sure there's a v long list, but I'd love to know a more verifiable figure of the number of trans women who haven't had surgery and/or drugs, what is behind the huge rise in girls referring to gender clinics, what are the accurate suicide risk groups in children and adults? (I'm conscious these are all self ID related however these are often the subjects where research is being shutdown). I often read something and someone comments that we don't know the detail or it is something that needs more research - these are just off the top of my head.

I know there are tonnes of other things that could be studied in what is a fast changing environment for women. Could this think tank spot gaps, do new research or bring together existing research into digestible formats for the general public/media?

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Newuser123123 · 06/12/2019 09:48

Other thread, although it didn't really go anywhere! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3750781-Feminist-think-tank-research-group-the-work-begins?msgid=91974705#91974705

I think I've caught up with dms now so if I've missed you please send again (this week is a bit hectic with school, Xmas, childcare etc)

I will get different boards added this weekend so we can start planning but I guess my first thoughts / questions are:

Fair cop are dealing brilliantly with the free speech angle
Woman's place are covering single sex spaces (as well as lots of other things)
Fairplay for women covers sport
SSA uk and transgender trend cover children
Lgb alliance will cover lgb women.

There doesn't seem an obvious gap for us, so could we join up with existing groups? The closest seems to be Woman's place (who I have contacted and they said they'd take it to their board)

SSA uk asked for of many of us to join them as possible (which I will do)

But aside from this, what can we do?

I like the idea of scanning for consultation opportunities, coming up with responses and offering ourselves as a research group to the existing groups.

Will start a discussion thread on the trello board, as ever, I bow to the superior collective knowledge!

Thanks

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Manderleyagain · 06/12/2019 00:04

Could you link to the other thread that you started? I can't see it. Apols if it's obvious!

Jux · 05/12/2019 23:50

My Uni tutor drummed a mantra into me "first, define your terms" so maybe we could start with dictionary definitions? It's one of the things we are most worried about, the gradual erosion of meaning from language, so we could put that right in front.

I personally would prefer not to include recent made up terms like xer or whatever, but it's not a biggie to me.

Can we put up that fantastic piece about pronouns and rohypnol on the Trello board? Just as a reminder.

ChattyLion · 05/12/2019 19:55

Following up what Nonny said about misogyny being made a hate crime, this is definitely possible, the law commission will be looking at this: www.lawcom.gov.uk/project/hate-crime/

It says in early 2020 there will be a public consultation so the think tank could submit a response to that, as well as potentially coordinating other responses from relevant women’s organisations. Also raising awareness among individual women so they can respond too.

Note: The law commission uses ‘gender’ when they actually mean ‘biological sex’ so it’s very important to respond with clear GC points to make sure sex-based misogyny is not overlooked. They seem to give a 12 week consultation period so it would be good to start thinking about this sooner rather than later.

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Newuser123123 · 05/12/2019 09:25

Thanks everyone for the DMs, will get back to you all ASAP

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PerkingFaintly · 04/12/2019 20:58

BTW my concerns about ID are just about potentially connecting real-life ID with very personal stuff I've talked about on MN.

I appreciate other people may have other concerns.

stumbledin · 04/12/2019 20:33

Thanks

ScreamingBeans · 04/12/2019 20:21

I'm in

Sexnotgender · 04/12/2019 20:19

I’m in please, will DM you.

Angryresister · 04/12/2019 20:10

I have nothing much left to lose, in terms of friends, job, public position etc so happy to be on media but I live outside uk, lesbian radical feminist foot soldier here.

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Newuser123123 · 04/12/2019 20:03

I'll have a poke around at the weekend to see. All that's on there at the moment is a document with the names and brief description of all the existing organisations

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stumbledin · 04/12/2019 19:23

Is it possible to read the Trello boards without having joined?

Thanks

PerkingFaintly · 04/12/2019 19:15

Ah, um. That's probably a valid point about managing accounts and real-life vs online IDs.

I might hold off joining until I've thought through which IDs I use on which sites. I need to make some changes on my MN account as it is.

(I'm not expecting to be able to contribute very much practically, but I'm interested in following anyway.)

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