Lib Dem’s Equalities R4 now

Lordprof, yes, I agree it sounded like a parody of something out of a Dennis Wheatley novel....

I know. My dsis, who is a corbynite, stopped just short of saying that they were rich old c*s who would be fine anyway due to their privilege - well, she actually did say that but then realised that she had to distance herslef from TW as he's not a corbyn fan, so fudged it

I thought Nick Robinson was very good - the language he used and the example of the refused membership suggests he's done his homework on this. Luciana Berger was dire - trotted out the "inclusive" buzzwords and gave no substance to her views.

I remember when this started coming out. It was when the ‘misery memoirs’ were being sold like hot cakes (and family members shouting ‘what??? All fantasy!’).

We were talking about this at home and I remember distinctly having the discussion that it all sounded very suspicious and too fantastic. Yes I know that such things happen but the stories, facts, memories, names... it just didn’t ‘feel’ right. I can not believe that the police didn’t check missing children or the supposed ‘murders’ or even his school records. They were so keen to believe.

I also remember he satanic child abuse rings.

How why are these things allowed to happen - and yet a teacher in the family noted that he has had kids on his class that he has had to beg SS to get involved as he genuinely believed that they were in danger of their lives (and he is a very level headed and experienced teacher).

Trewser, it really is such a sordid awful business. Can you imagine the howls of outrage from the press if the political parties of accused and Tom Watson were reversed?

That's what happens when people who are not liberal Democrats join the liberal Democrats. The centrist labour lot who have jumped ship are centre left, they have made the mistake of thinking that the Lib Dems are centre left and they couldn't be more wrong. Being a Lib Dem is a specific mindset.
Anyone listening that who didn't know a great deal about the subject would have only been aware of a politician utterly out of their depth and flailing.

People jump on bandwagons and back any pony they think will help them get ahead (and don’t care if they damage people along the way) and are rehabilitated/wait until people forget.

Lordprof, I think that’s absolutely true and what is even more frustrating is that the media just field soft ball questions and let politicos trot out nonsense

Well that was an utter shitshow. She clearly has no grasp on the facts of competing rights and would not even acknowledge that competition exists.
Completely out of her depth, and in my opinion a liar if she is denying any knowledge of that email exchange.
The LibDems should be nowhere near government, they are clearly in thrall to TRAs and lack the ability to think critically.
Can you imagine them negotiating anything with anyone?!
They must fall for scammers every bloody day.

I listened to one of the accused on the radio a few weeks ago and it brought tears to my eyes. Poor old bloke. Tom Watson must have been high on his own supply. Idiot.

Trewser, Tom Watson. Just incredible. People lost their homes and jobs because of the fantasist he promoted and amplified. Contemptible

I heard it this morning too.
The Lib Dem’s haven’t a flipping clue.
They clearly haven’t really grasped this issue. What else have they misunderstood?

Our constituency candidate made some very dodgy sexist comments earlier this year, so they were already treading a fine line, but they’ve officially lost my vote.

Yes I was thinking about him too... my mum had an amazing radar for people why were ‘up to no good’.

She tagged many of the people who later popped up in Yewtree etc and seemed to be able to sniff out ill Intent.

She would have people that she couldn’t watch on tv or read about in the newspapers. She didn’t always say but we knew that she had some reason.

When kids we thought she was just being a bit bonkers but now we see that she was pretty accurate and could predict outcomes of behaviour too.

Tom Watson and the fantasist also springs to mind

The more I think about PIE and the likes of Harriet Harman the more my blood boils.

People jump on bandwagons and back any pony they think will help them get ahead (and don’t care if they damage people along the way) and are rehabilitated/wait until people forget.

I have the memory of an elephant.

I really hope a LD candidate comes to my door! They won't, we live in the middle of nowhere. I might email my local candidate though and say why I won't vote for them

Thanks Nick. I agree this direct questioning wouldn't have happened a couple of years ago. Even dh who isnt that interested in Gc issues thought she sounded ridiculous.

Thank you! I half caught this as I was making the coffee (it was terrible as some onion managed to get into the pot😳) so I just caught parts, but yes, it sounded like a shit storm.

And as an aside - at some point the libdems are going to have to realise that's it's a choice between Corbyn and Johnson.

The paucity of modern politicos is incredible to behold. Meaningless platitudes, capitulation to whatever is trending on Twitter and a media which lets them trot out nonsense without robust challenge

Go Nick!

In thought Luciana's choice of words was interesting. She used the past tense for the campaign for women's rights, as though that work is done. She did the same vis a vis racism which was surprising given her personal experience.

I’ve just discovered how easy it is to roll a programme back on BBC Sounds, especially when MNers have helpfully provided the time stamp. Luciana Berger is all over the place.

She didn't like having to defend that. Well done Nick Robinson. Two years ago the BBC would never have asked such direct questions.
PULLLLLLL

I’m not voting for them having heard that.