Lib Dem’s Equalities R4 now

There absolutely shouldn’t be a hierarchy of equality - rather an oxymoron - all people were born and will die equal. What there also shouldn’t be is a game of equality Top Trumps with one person’s wishes dominating another’s needs based on a protected characteristic.

I’m in Jo Swinson’s constituency- seriously considering leaflet dropping extracts from Jenni Russell’s excellent Times article.

So utterly depressing.

But i dont think the majority understand that means what he said! My MIL still assumed they would have had a sex change operation!

The one thing he didn't say is that under self id you can say you are a woman without any surgery.

But he did say, so I can just announce I’m a woman and the law will treat me as one.

Just seen LB was recently awarded the political courage award...

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Here is the tweet.

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Lucian a on LBC now.

Wish NR was in power.

The one thing he didn't say is that under self id you can say you are a woman without any surgery.

Most people do NOT relaise this, and when they hear trans they think sex change op

The replies under this bbc tweet are a treat.

We were canvassed two nights ago by the Lib Dems, who I have supported in the past so am on their lists as supportive and and probably willing to put a window poster up. The party worker introduced herself and then introduced the new candidate ( the sitting LB MP is standing down) They went straight into ways in which I could help but I interrupted by asking if I could just clarify a few points about safeguarding women’s spaces etc.,.

Utter confusion and then hostility ‘ fairness, inclusivity, tolerance blah, blah’ No understanding about my very mild query, dismissive saying the urgent concerns were stopping Brexit and stopping the Tories. All came to a sudden stop as they decided to cut their losses with me as I was obviously not going to be useful.

Both party worker and candidate women, btw.

What an utter pile of crap she spouted. Waffly, and weak waffle at that. I had been thinking I'd vote LD but it's a no - in fact it's a Fuck, No, from me. Labour it is.

Nick Robinson is a proper grown up journalist who knows how to ask difficult questions of both sides.

LB’s responses sound really disappointing.

@TeaAndStrumpets 👍 us 🐘 have to speak up!

Yeh, Harriet Harman not getting voted in as the new Speaker made my day

I think what is really good about this interview, brief though it was, is that Robinson explicitly states that these are competing rights and the elevation of one group is to the detriment of the other. Berger’s response was denial, but let’s hope the detriment point keeps being made.

She just doesn't believe it or just doesn't care. Does she know she is campaigning in favour of prostitution, does she know she is in a party that fought against age verification for porn. I can't believe she holds these views about women. But the thought that she doesn't believe and is holding her nose is even worse. She has jumped from a party with underlying anti semitism to one with an underlying misogyny. To be fair to her after what happened to Change UK, where could you go if you wanted to maintain a career in politics.

Fekko, I am old and bear grudges, it's like an Olympic sport for me. I never respected Harriet Harman after the PIE business.

There are plenty of politicians on my shit list these days

Luciana Berger repeatedly insists that these are not ‘competing’ rights despite Robinson giving crystal clear examples. Denials, waffle, ineptitude. What a woeful, craven performance

Bravo Nick Robinson. The more this bollocks is talked about in the mainstream, the more is pisses off the general public.
12 months ago I’d be terrified of talking about this, now I don’t care and everyone I speak to is horrified that someone’s feelings are put above the rights of the majority.

In fairness she was incoherent before she started on the equalities madness. Wtf is it will 'loveliest' candidate etc? Such low level politicking. Her only argument seems to be vote for a nice PM.

Nicks follow up Q should have been "but gay rights don't compete with anyone else's rights, do they?"

This whole "as a society we were on the wrong side of history on homosexuality and were not going to make that mistake with gender identity" shit needs a serious challenge.

Nick Robinson v good. Luciana Berger was incoherent. Shame it couldn't have been longer.

I shouted liar at the radio when she said she wasn't aware of the email too - it has been widely publicised so I doubt that.

She clearly has no grasp on the facts of competing rights and would not even acknowledge that competition exists.

You could almost hear the thinking: "TWAW. Anything that challenges this is forbidden thought".