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Lib Dems say reforming Gender Recognition Act ‘can’t wait’ and is a manifesto priority

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stumbledin · 13/11/2019 19:46

I suppose this is the next step on from saying they dont want the votes or support of gender critical women.

The source for this story is Pink News, but presumably even they wouldn't quote somebody they hadn't actually spoken to. Or is this just devious electioneering, saying something to one audience to win their vote, but never talk about it elsewhere.

^“This government has, by its own admission, kicked these vital changes to the Gender Recognition Act into the long grass. This is prolonging uncertainty and creating unnecessary anxiety for trans people at a time when transphobic hate crime is at a record high,” said Christine Jardine, Liberal Democrat shadow minister for women and equalities.

“The Conservatives’ inaction on this shows a fundamental lack of empathy. They are treating trans people as second-class citizens. The Liberal Democrats will build a brighter future where every person’s rights are respected, including expression of their gender identity,” Jardine said.^

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/13/gender-recognition-act-liberal-democrats-reform-manifesto-priority/

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SanFranBear · 13/11/2019 20:43

ArialAnna - for me, this is the hill I am willing to die on. Like hoopdaloo upthread, I have never voted for anyone other than Lib Dem my entire voting life and I am comfortably into my 40s now - this includes every type of election, national and local, and was a member until earlier this year. However, any political party who is so blind to the impact of Self ID on women, is not a party that I want to vote for. You're right, there are more important things they should be focussing on but let a face it, should they get anywhere close to power again (and I really don't think they will), it will be as a coalition again. I can absolutely see a ruling party saying to the LD's that they can focus on areas such as the GRA as they won't want them meddling with their Brexit plans.

There are other choices than Blue or Red, I completely agree. But if you're voting based on their policies and support for women - as I am - then Yellow is just as shit a choice. I can see me spoiling my ballot again as there is no party who represents me anymore!

TinselAngel · 13/11/2019 20:37

Can you ask them about the spousal "veto", tilder?

tilder · 13/11/2019 20:36

I will be seeing a prominent lib dem MP in 2 weeks time. Will ask if, in their view, somebody GC is welcome in their party.

TinselAngel · 13/11/2019 20:32

There have been so many threads on MN about the Lib Dems being anti gender critical, I'm beginning to get suspicious that they are being posted by Tory trolls.

Do you think I'm a Tory troll?

Fucking hell, if I only came to MN to troll for the Tories I've been playing a bloody long game.

Arella · 13/11/2019 20:31

They knocked on my door - but they approached me by name and I work in a public-facing role, so I just said I was not voting for them. I wish I had the courage to say why to see what the canvasser said, but I did not feel anonymous enough.

ArialAnna · 13/11/2019 20:30

There have been so many threads on MN about the Lib Dems being anti gender critical, I'm beginning to get suspicious that they are being posted by Tory trolls... in fact is that you Boris?

Regardless of the views of some of their members, I can't really see trans rights legistation being a priority for them. Surely it comes way down below stopping brexit, healthcare, crime, reforming the electoral system, climate change, child poverty, and practically every other issue? Boris and Corbyn both terrify me, so I wish you'd stop putting people off voting lib dem.

*puts on hard hat and awaits onslaught...

EverardDigby · 13/11/2019 20:26

I’m really looking forward to the LibDems knocking on my door....

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 20:25

Nah I don’t believe so. Has anyone told them?

TinselAngel · 13/11/2019 20:23

Are votes from trans activists ten times more powerful than women's votes or something, and nobody told us?

hoopdaloo · 13/11/2019 20:22

I have never voted for anyone other than Lib Dems.

I feel so fucking let down.

fridgegrazer · 13/11/2019 20:20

Oh God - I simply can't vote for anyone. What on earth am I going to do?

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/11/2019 20:12

Its getting into bed with the Greens and Magic Grandad that I'm worried about…..

HumberHellraiser · 13/11/2019 20:00

tossers

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stumbledin · 13/11/2019 19:55

As someone said on facebook #VoteRemainVoteSelfID Sad

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/11/2019 19:55

Final nail in the Lib Dem coffin for me Confused

FeckTheMagicDragon · 13/11/2019 19:53

‘S OK. If they get enough votes to get into bed with the Torys, they’ll sell them out.

Just like they did with the students.

I’m still politically homeless, and at a loss over why these parties are not trying to woo the 51% of the population, instead of the 1%.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/11/2019 19:51

Surely before anyone does any reforming the views collected from the consultation need publishing?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/11/2019 19:50

This should be seen by everyone voting next month.

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/11/2019 19:50

Where every male person's rights are respected. Let's be honest about this. The Lib Dems have no interest whatsoever in respecting the rights of female born people.

Makes me still more afraid of them ending up in a coalition.

merrymouse · 13/11/2019 19:49

Do people not have a right to express their gender identity now?