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Jenni Russell article in The Times: Politicians are betraying women in the rush to support trans rights

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StandUpStraight · 13/11/2019 18:13

Thank you, Jenni.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/politicians-are-betraying-women-in-the-rush-to-support-trans-rights-xzvhcf7m8?shareToken=64642eb10844a4086ebeb30b012fb564

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BoneAppleTeaa · 17/11/2019 08:49

@Igneococcus thank you!

BoneAppleTeaa · 16/11/2019 09:11

I don’t know how the subscription works but is it possible for someone to share this again?

boatyardblues · 16/11/2019 08:20

I noticed last night there are now 771 comments under this article & the recent ones are in the same vein as the earlier ones - ie very supportive.

MrsSnippyPants · 15/11/2019 11:28

I have posted this article on our local Facebook page; women are tentatively asking me about it, the men are, without exception, refuting it and asking for evidence of every single ‘claim’ . Sigh.

Uncompromisingwoman · 15/11/2019 10:12

Once you allow people to speak it's empowering. And this debate has been a one way street for years - it's way past time that women (and men) were allowed to speak out about one of the biggest social changes being forced on an unwilling (and usually unaware) population.

YourOpinionIsNoted · 15/11/2019 10:06

Agreed. I think it proves how restricted the debate has been, @mcduffy, and shows that really it's the blue haired brigade who are the ones in an echo chamber, not us.

Full credit to Mumsnet HQ for continuing the debate on here, I know the talk guidelines are frustrating a lot of the time but there's few other places where we can even say this much. I wouldn't know anything about this issue if it weren't for Mumsnet. It's why the TRAs hate this site so much.

mcduffy · 15/11/2019 09:11

The comments are just so heartening. Mumsnet FWR not such an echo chamber after all Grin

boatyardblues · 15/11/2019 00:23

Also interesting & heartening to see so many men commenting in support of Jenni and women’s rights.

YourOpinionIsNoted · 15/11/2019 00:12

That is brilliant news, boat, thanks for the update.

boatyardblues · 15/11/2019 00:09

I just looked 551 comments and another 5 in active progress. Wow! Too many to read now, as I need to go to bed, but a phenomenal response.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 14/11/2019 17:08
  • by 'this', I mean the Times article.
ScrimshawTheSecond · 14/11/2019 17:07

Have just emailed this to the Lib Dems, who recently sent me something suggestig I vote for them. Might email it to the other local candidates, actually.

Uncompromisingwoman · 14/11/2019 16:57

Just had another look at the article. The comments are really heartening with a massive number of men commenting as well - often with clear insight into the issues.
They also seem to have stopped pre moderating the comments.

SonEtLumiere · 14/11/2019 15:26

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endofthelinefinally · 14/11/2019 15:08

Sorry, £522,688.

YourOpinionIsNoted · 14/11/2019 15:08

Mermaids sickens me.

endofthelinefinally · 14/11/2019 15:07

According to the Times today, Mermaids has received over £715k this year.
£522.658 in donations and legacies.
HBomberGuy, a you tube star donated £25k.

Arella · 14/11/2019 14:59

Where do you see if your comment is pending approval? Mine is still not there ...

YourOpinionIsNoted · 14/11/2019 14:23

I've emailed the article to my mp. He's Tory and not exactly progressive. I've never votes Tory in my life but will do it holding my nose if he tells me he supports women's rights.

Actually, this is a potentially massive vote winner for the Tories. Blue haired TRAs and the woke brigade are never going to vote for them anyway. But they could pick up a lot of votes by standing up for women.

endofthelinefinally · 14/11/2019 13:34

I was reading the comments but I can't even see any now.

CriticalCondition · 14/11/2019 13:32

I have gone out and bought today's Times and will be sending a hard photocopy of this article to each of the candidates in my constituency.
My MP seems to like snailmail and sent me a letter the day the election campaign started setting out her position on Brexit.
This article is so good and expresses my feelings so perfectly. I would have voted Lib Dem because of Brexit but they have lost my vote over this issue. This is the deciding factor for me now.

Ereshkigal · 14/11/2019 13:28

Don't worry, I've seen it now. All the comments are coming through and still lots of people still commenting by the looks of it. Couple of TRAs but overwhelmingly comments are supportive of the article and her position.

Ereshkigal · 14/11/2019 13:18

Can anyone screenshot or c&p Florence's post?

MissLawls · 14/11/2019 13:15

Fantastic article. Pulls no punches.